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Old 15-03-2009, 11:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im looking for information on what is needed to enter the top 5 JCs in Singapore. The JCs im talking about is namely :
Hwa Chong JC
NJC
Raffles JC
Temasek JC
Victoria JC.

(I know this changes every year)

Im a secondary pupil so erm. Just try and provide me with a rather objective point of view. THXX

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hmm,are you referring to the cut off point of the jcs? but in case,these are the cut off points for the 5 jcs respectively in 2008(not sure about 2009 because i only have the 2009 jae booklet,i just started my jc year 1!)

Hwa Chong - 3 for both Science and Arts
National - 5 both for Science and Arts
Victoria - 4 for Science and 6 for Arts
Temasek - 6 for Science and 7 for Arts
Raffles - 3 for Science and 4 for Arts

Bonus points may be used to reduce your COP,maximum 6 points may be deducted. 2 for achieving either A1 or A2 in your CCA(1 for B3 to C6),2 for passing English and Higher Mother Tongue(if you have),2 for applying for a language elective programme,2 for choosing an affliated school. Of course they accept students who may not meet their cops but are talented in a certain cca that they want through dsa.

Well,I try to be as helpful as I can,but from what I heard from my batch admitted this year,many 3 pointers who applied for HC were rejected,they only took in 2 pointers and a handful of 3 pointers,and Victoria only accepted people who scored A1 in both English and Mother Tongue(or Higher Mother Tongue),those who had a good L1R5 raw score but did not fufill the pre-requisite above were rejected too.

hmm thats all i know..but seriously you just need to do well and have a decent cca record.


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hmm,are you referring to the cut off point of the jcs? but in case,these are the cut off points for the 5 jcs respectively in 2008(not sure about 2009 because i only have the 2009 jae booklet,i just started my jc year 1!)

Hwa Chong - 3 for both Science and Arts
National - 5 both for Science and Arts
Victoria - 4 for Science and 6 for Arts
Temasek - 6 for Science and 7 for Arts
Raffles - 3 for Science and 4 for Arts

Bonus points may be used to reduce your COP,maximum 6 points may be deducted. 2 for achieving either A1 or A2 in your CCA(1 for B3 to C6),2 for passing English and Higher Mother Tongue(if you have),2 for applying for a language elective programme,2 for choosing an affliated school. Of course they accept students who may not meet their cops but are talented in a certain cca that they want through dsa.

Well,I try to be as helpful as I can,but from what I heard from my batch admitted this year,many 3 pointers who applied for HC were rejected,they only took in 2 pointers and a handful of 3 pointers,and Victoria only accepted people who scored A1 in both English and Mother Tongue(or Higher Mother Tongue),those who had a good L1R5 raw score but did not fufill the pre-requisite above were rejected too.

hmm thats all i know..but seriously you just need to do well and have a decent cca record.
Are you talking about appeal cases or JAE cases? I got in without the need of appeal even though my languages suck. English B3 and HMT C5. For cases of people who have borderline grades, admission is random. My friend's grades are kinda better than mine (he has one more A2 than me), but he failed to get in. We're both 'borderline top students' of our schools (cos our languages pulled us down), yet he did not get into VJ, and people with lousier grades did (e.g. less A1-s than him).

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Are you talking about appeal cases or JAE cases? I got in without the need of appeal even though my languages suck. English B3 and HMT C5. For cases of people who have borderline grades, admission is random. My friend's grades are kinda better than mine (he has one more A2 than me), but he failed to get in. We're both 'borderline top students' of our schools (cos our languages pulled us down), yet he did not get into VJ, and people with lousier grades did (e.g. less A1-s than him).
hmm,i just heard it from my friend. I guess it just applies to appeal cases,hence the strict criteria. Anyway,is it true again that jcs actually accepted those who had more bonus points to deduct?

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hmm,i just heard it from my friend. I guess it just applies to appeal cases,hence the strict criteria. Anyway,is it true again that jcs actually accepted those who had more bonus points to deduct?
Of course, they only look at partial points. (e.g. the resultant grade after all that minus). However, lets say the JC you're applying for has a cut off point of 4, and you got 8-4 = 4, and another person has 6-2=4, both have equal chances of applying in. It's random. :]

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Based on the cut off for 2008 O level to 2009 JC batch-
To enter RI or HC, you must take HMT and score 6-4=2 to enter.
To enter VJ, you must take HMT and score at least 7-4=3 to enter. Those with 6-2=4 were mostly rejected, while some with 8-4=4 could enter (mostly from VS affiliated).
To enter NJ, you do not have to take HMT but you would need to score 6-2=4 or 8-4=4 minimum if you take HMT.
To enter TJ, you do not have to take HMT and you would need to score 8-2=6 or 10-4=6 minimum if you take HMT.

All scores mentioned above are after bonuses from the raw score, and are the minimum requirement to enter the science streams of the schools with a relatively good chance. Any L1R5+bonus lower than the above mentioned would decrease your chances of entering those JCs for the 2008 O level batch to almost 0.

Good luck for your O level this year and work hard consistently!

P.S. when you receive the official cut off scores, please remember to deduct 1 point from the cut off score to ensure that you would be able to enter the JC of your choice, as some of the cut-off scores are partial!


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Based on the cut off for 2008 O level to 2009 JC batch-
To enter RI or HC, you must take HMT and score 6-4=2 to enter.
To enter VJ, you must take HMT and score at least 7-4=3 to enter. Those with 6-2=4 were mostly rejected, while some with 8-4=4 could enter (mostly from VS affiliated).
To enter NJ, you do not have to take HMT and you would need to score 6-2=4 or 8-4=4 minimum if you take HMT.
To enter TJ, you do not have to take HMT and you would need to score 8-2=6 or 10-4=6 minimum if you take HMT.

All scores mentioned about are after bonuses from the raw score, and are the minimum requirement to enter the science streams of the schools with a relatively good chance. Any L1R5+bonus lower than the above mentioned would decrease your chances of entering those JCs for the 2008 O level batch to almost 0.

Good luck for your O level this year and work hard consistently!
Have to take HMT and pass. xD Anw, to add on to the part where you said 'most people who got 4 points and enter is from VS.' Entering any JC if you're just nice at the cut off point is random. It does not mean that a VS guy scoring 4 has a higher chance than another scoring 4.

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Have to take HMT and pass. xD Anw, it's a little wrong to say most people who got 4 points and enter is from VS. (though VS makes up quite a proportion) Entering any JC if you're just nice at the cut off point is random. It does not mean that a VS guy scoring 4 has a higher chance than another scoring 4.
If I'm not wrong, those with 8-4=4 are ranked higher than those with 6-2=4! Choice is important as well!

None of my friends (at least 3 or 4) with 6-2=4 could enter VJ, and one of friend with 8-4=4 couldn't enter VJ as well. Most of them entered NJ or TJ.


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If I'm not wrong, those with 8-4=4 are ranked higher than those with 6-2=4! Choice is important as well!

None of my friends (at least 3 or 4) with 6-2=4 could enter VJ, and one of friend with 8-4=4 couldn't enter VJ as well. Most of them entered NJ or TJ.
They do not care about actual grade. They only care about the resultant grade after the minus. Btw, 3 points should get into VJ. I doubt any 3-pointer failed to get in. :] Anw, they 4 points can't get in means unlucky. xP

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I did not know that it had become so difficult to enter VJ..My school's people who scored 8 points with HMT got into VJ

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Well, i think it dosent matter if the JC is top 5 JC but i think it should be like.. there are also good JCs out ther eyea? like MJC?

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my suggestion is. don't care what jc has what cut-off point. top 5 jcs usually have cop under 6 points. just work as hard as you can in your o'levels then when get result liao then da shuan. for now maybe if you already confident about your results then yeah it will be good to gather some info about the top few jc.

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I'm still a long way from the "Os" but yea. I want to gather info on them first. I think I may go for VJC. I have a rather good impression of it since primary school cause i went for a competition there. I'm a perfectionist so I usually want my goals to be clear before I start on anything.

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I'm still a long way from the "Os" but yea. I want to gather info on them first. I think I may go for VJC. I have a rather good impression of it since primary school cause i went for a competition there. I'm a perfectionist so I usually want my goals to be clear before I start on anything.
Having clear goals can be a good thing or a bad thing. If you repeatedly want to have clear goals before starting to do anything, you may end up not doing anything. :\

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My brother, got 1 A2 and the rest, A1s.
Meaning he got 6 pointer.
Then, he got to minus of 4 points.
So, he got 2 points for Olevel.
He didn't get into NYJC.
Which i find was rather ridiculous.
He didn't get AJC either.
He wanted a school just nearby but didn't get it so ended up with what he was given at first, NJC.
He didn't choose RI or HCI.
He wanted to go poly so badly, initially, until he heard about the criteria for UNI.
I don't get it why cannot get NYJC when he got 2 points and his friends with 4points or so, got in.

WE EVEN TRIED APPEALING AND WAS REJECTED.
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Something is rather wrong with what you have mentioned above. Your brother should re-check his choices. If he had indeed chosen NYJC as his first choice, he would have entered NYJC. If NJC was his first choice, he would have been posted to NJC immediately regardless of his other choices.

You should ask your brother to enquire MOE. It's their fault if he had chosen NYJC as his first choice and not enter NYJC. (I doubt so though)


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Something is rather wrong with what you have mentioned above. Your brother should re-check his choices. If he had indeed chosen NYJC as his first choice, he would have entered NYJC. If NJC was his first choice, he would have been posted to NJC immediately regardless of his other choices.

You should ask your brother to enquire MOE. It's their fault if he had chosen NYJC as his first choice and not enter NYJC. (I doubt so though)
Hahaha, not lah.
He took NJC first.
Then, he appealed for NYJC but some of his friends also appeal cause they got into the JCs they don't want.
Then, they got it but my brother never.
Partly his fault la.
Actually the story is like this:
Mum wants him to get into JC and not poly but he got the message wrongly.
He thought mum wants him to go to the top ones.
Ok, i'm not good at explaining.
I don't even know if people understand what i'm talking.
Then, he's like the youngest; the hope of the family.
Not wanting to disappoint mum, he choose NJC.
Then, he was upset over it cause he said mum force him too make that choice.
Explained to him that he actually got the message wrongly.
Mum said that she just wants him to go to JC and not top ones but just a JC.
So, he tried appealing but didn't get.
Infact we met with some rude people in certain JC instead.
Heart Pain sia!
Pfft but nevermind.
He's already okay with the whole thing.
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Haha, everything's okay. Got what you're trying to say! By the way, I'm also from NJC, JC1, same batch as your brother!

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