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Old 17th June 2008, 08:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can you change your destiny?

With Astrology and Palm Reading they tell you how your life will turn out. It could be bad or it could be good. If it is bad do you think you can change it?

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Old 17th June 2008, 08:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Can you change your destiny?

i doubt so.. its predestined...

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Old 17th June 2008, 09:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i dun think so too..alot ppl say change name will help, or changed the setting at home..if really ah den all ppl is rich and health lah..y will the rich still can die..

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Old 17th June 2008, 09:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just live your life as its the last day of your life and u will enjoy liaoz.
dun care so much about destiny. its all pre determined by the people living up there.

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Old 17th June 2008, 10:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Can you change your destiny?

I have to tell you, Yes and it can changed. Ask Shimure and he'll tell you the same too. But then changing destiny is not as easy, and you have to cultivate and to more meritious deeds. The doctrine of impermenance is always there, and everything is suppose to be impermenent.

Lets say so and so is going to happen to you, but if you at the point of time when you know it you accumulate more good karma, that thing that is going to happpen to you may not happen or it will be less severe.

In all aspects of life - family,relationship,career and so on are never fixed. If we were to assume that everything is predestinied, then why would we need to work hard? If a person is predestinied to be a criminal, then why does he have to go to school, go to work and strive hard? If he is predestinied to be bad, then whatever he do is no use because in the end he is still bad. Doesnt make sense rite? Is like saying once you are evil, youre forever evil or like a leopard never changes it spots.

Yes, whatever you experience now is predestinied by your past karma. But its never too late to change. Destiny to us is not given by some supernatural forces nor God, but given by ourselves. For all you know what you have done in the past. Who knows about that anyway. Thats why there is always a message behind: To do good deeds and refrain from evil.

Though this doctrine is always views by people as 'against the current', sometimes you have to know truth is bitter and truth is not what most people accept.

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Old 17th June 2008, 12:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Can you change your destiny?

as long as samsara doesnt end, everyone will have to endure some forms of suffering in their lifetimes. Just do what you think is right? Nobody can ever confirm for sure whether your act of altering your destiny was actually preordained or simply a random attempt by you to go against fate.

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as long as samsara doesnt end, everyone will have to endure some forms of suffering in their lifetimes. Just do what you think is right? Nobody can ever confirm for sure whether your act of altering your destiny was actually preordained or simply a random attempt by you to go against fate.
Well, we dont know for sure. But then those things i said was what Buddha said.

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i still tink to do good things while u r alive. but destiny shld be diff to change

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I have to tell you, Yes and it can changed. Ask Shimure and he'll tell you the same too. But then changing destiny is not as easy, and you have to cultivate and to more meritious deeds. The doctrine of impermenance is always there, and everything is suppose to be impermenent.

Lets say so and so is going to happen to you, but if you at the point of time when you know it you accumulate more good karma, that thing that is going to happpen to you may not happen or it will be less severe.

In all aspects of life - family,relationship,career and so on are never fixed. If we were to assume that everything is predestinied, then why would we need to work hard? If a person is predestinied to be a criminal, then why does he have to go to school, go to work and strive hard? If he is predestinied to be bad, then whatever he do is no use because in the end he is still bad. Doesnt make sense rite? Is like saying once you are evil, youre forever evil or like a leopard never changes it spots.

Yes, whatever you experience now is predestinied by your past karma. But its never too late to change. Destiny to us is not given by some supernatural forces nor God, but given by ourselves. For all you know what you have done in the past. Who knows about that anyway. Thats why there is always a message behind: To do good deeds and refrain from evil.

Though this doctrine is always views by people as 'against the current', sometimes you have to know truth is bitter and truth is not what most people accept.

Strongly agree. If you do good deeds and refrain from evil, you will still experience fruits from your past karma, however the effects, if its bad, will be reduced. to what extent will depends on your actions.

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Re: Can you change your destiny?

I am no fortune teller or righteous person...

But i believe the future is in your own hands

Only you yourself will be able to change it

Right, accidents/failure happens even though you tried your best

Its how you pick yourself up that matters

You can't control what people do or think

You just have to keep on doing your best =)


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Re: Can you change your destiny?

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... If a person is predestinied to be a criminal, then why does he have to go to school, go to work and strive hard? If he is predestinied to be bad, then whatever he do is no use because in the end he is still bad. Doesnt make sense rite?
You make a very good point.

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Re: Can you change your destiny?

I don't believe in destiny, sadly... I feel that whatever you did will then cause the consequences... So there are no fixed things that you will do in ur course of life/fixed consequences that would then appear... Ok la maybe makes no sense -_-

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Re: Can you change your destiny?

Originally Posted by raph View Post
i doubt so.. its predestined...
Yes, i agree with you.I believe that when one person is born nothing can be able to change for his destiny.

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Re: Can you change your destiny?

just wondering. are we able to know what our destiny's are??
if yes, how do we know it???
if no, how do we change it???
if i do good now, will it definitely help my future??
if i do bad now, will it definitely doom me??

i dun believe in predestination.
but i feel that destiny cannot be changed by one person alone, cos we are all inter-related one way or another. An action by another person mite change your destiny.

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Though this doctrine is always views by people as 'against the current', sometimes you have to know truth is bitter and truth is not what most people accept.
very well said.
the above is what i preach 2.

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We cannot change our past, but we can change the present to make the future better. Hmm...

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Re: Can you change your destiny?

Originally Posted by Moz View Post
I am no fortune teller or righteous person...

But i believe the future is in your own hands

Only you yourself will be able to change it

Right, accidents/failure happens even though you tried your best

Its how you pick yourself up that matters

You can't control what people do or think

You just have to keep on doing your best =)
sorry bro, i dont agree with you.
well, maybe let me put up an example here.

mark n spencer were both highly educated from the same reputable university.
with the equal quality, mark seems to climb higher n better than spencer in a corporate
bank they work together. within 2 years, mark was already an asst financial director n
spencer was still falling back behind him. few years later, they decided to do thier own
biz. this time, spencer biz was booming faster than mark.

with the same education level, equal chances n hardwork, how could one is falling back
behind the other? that's destiny...

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