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Old 17-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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this a long article i want to share about , thanks for the time .

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Got a phone call last Monday from an unknown number.


The lady from the other end of the phone spoke to me with that easily identifiable mainland Chinese accent. Ching chong lady told me from she's from a Hong Kong company, calling me to conduct a marketing survey in Malaysia.

That's sounded alright, so I obliged and I was asked some pretty standard questions like how old I am, my monthly income and stuff like that. The phone call lasted for about 20 minutes. As a token of appreciation. ching chong lady gave me a lucky draw number for a publicity event they will be holding in Genting.

Since I couldn't possibly be attending the event all the way in Genting, I didn't bother writing that number down and just forget about it.
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The next evening around 6pm, Ching Chong lady called again. This time she sounded happy and excited, as if China has just won the World Cup. In the background, the crowd noise typical of a big dinner function can be heard.

Ching Chong Lady: Mr Kenny Sia! Are you Mr Kenny Sia!? Listen, are you in Genting right now?!
Kenny: No, I thought I mentioned yesterday that I couldn't attend the event because I am in Sarawak?
Ching Chong Lady: Ohhh! No wonder our emcee called your name so many times and you didn't come up on stage!
Kenny: What is going on?
Ching Chong Lady: Mr Kenny Sia, you just won the second prize of our lucky draw! Congratulations!
Kenny: Oh, cool. *thinking it was probably like a toaster or a fan or something*
Ching Chong Lady: YOU JUST WON YOURSELF $240,000 HK DOLLARS!!!
Kenny: Whoa?!
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Honestly, at that point in time I could not believe my luck. I had believed Miss Ching Chonglady completely.

HKD$240,000 is about RM120,000. That is a lot of money.

Ching Chonglady congratulated me further. Before we ended our conversation, she advised me to stay safe and invited me to visit their company when they set up a branch in Malaysia. I agreed. She was so nice and courteous that I didn't even suspect a single thing.

That night, I went to bed feeling elated. I even dreamt about how to spend my prize money.
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Very early next morning, she called again to arrange for the collection of my HKD$240,000 prize. That is when I first thought something fishy was going on.

Everyone knows that in Malaysia, it takes FOREVER for prizes to reach the winner's hand.

I should know. I took part in Deal or No Deal Malaysia almost three months ago and until now I STILL haven't even received my meagre prize money!

And these people who called me are handling the prize collection too efficiently. Of course it looked firshy!
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The name of the company was a jewellery company called Hong Kong DiFenNi, and the lady who contacted me is Chen Ke.

I was asked how I would like to collect my prize money, so I suggested she deposit the cash into my bank account. She gave me an option to pick up the money in Hong Kong, but I declined saying it was too inconvenient.

Anyway, I gave Chen Ke my real bank account and IC number, placing my full trust in Maybank to protect the whole 20 ringgit I have in my savings account.

As soon as I hung up the phone, Detective Kenny Sia rushed to the computer and decided to do some investigative work.
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First thing I did was call up Genting Resorts to check if any foreign company called "Hong Kong DiFenNi" had rented out their ballrooms for an event last night. The nice lady at Genting gave me two company names that had booked their facilities yesterday, and both of them are local.

FISHY.


Fine. Give them benefit of the doubt. Maybe they used a local company to rent out a ballroom on their behalf.

Next, I logged on to the Internet to check out the website address they had given me - www.difenni.com.cn

The URL redirected me to another website at www.weidajp.com

At first glance, their website looked awfully professional. They have a news section and a products section typical of any good company website. The phone number they gave me (+852 6554 6865) matches the one on the website. And eventhough the jewellery they displayed on their website looks butt ugly, I must admit that on the whole their website looked very convincing.

Then I looked up the WHOIS registry of these two websites.
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Website is registered on the 20th June 2007. That's only one month old!

How bloody likely was it for an established international export company to not even have a website until one freaking month ago?

FISHY. So fishy, it's fishier than a fish market.

Fine. Once again, I give them benefit of the doubt. Finally, I fired up Google and typed in the some search words.

BINGO! I found this.
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Apparently, this scam has been going around for a while and a number of people in Malaysia and Singapore had fallen for it. The scammers will convince you that you have won a lucky draw, but in order to take the money out you'd have to pay a certain amount of insurance deposit. The scammers will then run away with the 'deposit' and you will never see a single cent of your winnings ever.

I called up DAP Sarawak's chairman Richard Wong at his office because his name was mentioned in the Borneo Post report and I told him about my predicament. Talking him further convinced me that this was a tried and true scam that has been going around for a while. The name of the company was different, but the method of execution was the same.

Since I hadn't been asked to send them any money yet, I decided to have a little fun with them.

The next time I received a phone call from the scammers, I was talking to a ching chong man instead. His name is Yang Jun.

Whaddya know? Just as expected, I was told that in order to receive my prize money, I need to send them some money as insurance deposit first.

They said there was a law erected to prevent people taking money above HKD$150,000 out of the country. They claimed its for fear of black market or terrorism financing.

To me, that's just a whole lotta bull.

If they wanna force me to buy some insurance deposit, they can just deduct some off my prize money.

But fine. I told them if its illegal to transfer so much money overseas, just send me the limit of HKD$150,000.

"Sorry, the cheque has already been written and we can't write a new one."

Fine! So I told them I will fly to HK to pick up the money in person. To my surprise, they said they would welcome me with open arms. They even invited me to their "jewellery showroom".

Immediately I regretted suggesting that. Because if I showed up, those people could very well abduct me.

Maybe even sell me off for gay prostitution or something.

My patience was wearing thin After thirty minutes of international phone call, FINALLY I said to them I "agreed" to pay RM3,000 insurance deposit.

You could almost hear the jubilent cheer in his voice.

I was asked to contact a Chen ZhenRong who, according to ching chong man, is their "most esteemed accountant who took time out of his very busy schedule to handle your transaction, out of the goodness of his heart."

It's funny how these people make themselves sounded like some patron saint of Jesus Christ, when in fact they are more crooked than Barbra Streisand's nose.

Of course, I couldn't give two hoots about who this Chen ZhenRong is. Everytime he called, I purposely fooled around with Mr Gold-Hearted Saint Jesus Accountant Who Took Time Out Of His Very Busy Schedule, dilly-dallying, time-wasting, and just giving them endless supply of lame excuses and empty promises.

They were persistent. Annoyed, angry, impatient, but still very persistent.

I am touched. Never have a stranger been so desperate to give me RM120,000 before.
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What I am REALLY impressed with is that these people are so convincing and so organised. There were virtually no holes in their web of lies.

I was even given a number of a Hong Kong bank to contact. When I called, the automated voice prompt confirmed that HKD$240,000 is sitting there waiting in my bank account. All they need is my RM3,000 insurance deposit.

You can try it yourself. The phone number was +852 6635 7011. My bank account number is 2110 1600 0787 80 and my PIN number is 821127.

Of course, I gave them a fake bank account number. They believed me.

I told them to deposit my prize money into my special company bank account that could handle quicker international transaction. They believed me.

I also told them that my company name was Kanina Chee Bye. And they believed me!

The best thing about all of these? I have recorded every single bit of telephone conversations they had with me. And they didn't even know about it.

youtube - - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IWVJfoLgbg&eurl=
Click on it to listen!

Don't worry if you can't understand Chinese. There are English subtitles.

Anyway, I was told to put the RM3,000 insurance deposit into their Hong Leong bank account 023-51-06038-8, under the name Eu Sok Eng.

But after playing with them for so long, I decided I have had enough fun. Yesterday, I visited our local Hong Leong Branch and banked in the money for our friendly HK scammer.
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When Mr Gold-Hearted Saint Jesus Accountant Who Took Time Out Of His Very Busy Schedule called again, he was clearly furious at my non-cooperation.

Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!
Kenny: Listen, I...
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: WHERE IS THE INSURANCE DEPOSIT!? YOU SAID YOU WILL BANK IN FOR US BUT YOU NEVER DID!
Kenny: No wait, I already...
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: DO YOU THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR YOUR GAMES!? ARE YOU TREATING US LIKE A JOKE!??!
Kenny: Listen, I banked in the money to your account already. I swear to you I did.
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: BY CHEQUE OR BY CASH!!?
Kenny: Cash! Just like you instructed.
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: WHAT TIME!?
Kenny: 14 o'clock and 5 minute.
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: WHICH SECOND!?
Kenny: 3 second. The receipt number is 00748.
Mr Saint Jesus Accountant: Ok. You let me check. I will call you back later.

I wasn't lying, you know? I did send him the money. But the accountant never me called back. And I don't think he ever will.

Because as a slap in the face, I sent him a grand total of...
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ONE RINGGIT.

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haha bravo!!

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I got this person calling me as well. The HK property company. I never bothered to play with them. So I nvr answer when they called me back.

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hey, this scam has been around for quite awhile.
glad that you are alright...

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kns. these days alot of these ppl.

we must open our eyes wider, and be careful

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你好也!!!!

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thanks for the time reading this long article

FYI , there's is an email con happen nowdays , will post a new article in new thread later on .. :biggrin4:

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heehee sounds funny

you should have put yourself as Dato or something

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dato :confused2:

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there are so amny tis kind of scam nowadays...muz becareful n be alert when receiving such calls or emails

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aiyo the nerve of these cheaters. but 30 mins of international calls, who is paying?

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lol,good one ,power

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wow! Ultimate revenge! Those cheaters must have hell of a time. Who in a world will believe they are from hk. Their freaking china accent is a dead giveaway but I love how Kenny played around with them. Serve them right!

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fully agreed....
give them a taste of their own medicine...
play with them and then catch them...

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This is by far the best anti scam education. Well done, Kenny. But I really hope that these schemers will be put away for good.:mellow3:

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well i get a call from this cheaters as well. keep on calling and calling...until one day when i told them, "oh im not interested with the prizes that u claimed i won but if u insist on giving it to me. please donate it to any charity organization...thx [i hung up]"

i was so angry that time coz i was having a class and the tutor was jus irritable too...haha..anyway, jus dun be cheated by all this:mellow3:

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yup , kenny was smart enough to play with them ..

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when i get this type of call, normally i just hang the phone, don waste time

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when i get this type of call, normally i just hang the phone, don waste time
Yea. few day Back i received a similar. they Say i won a lucky draw for wad amazon..... Den i say im not a member, the man say Someone wrote my particular and stuffs in the lucky de.. Den, this man quite stupid i guess, he ask you Are Miss Tan right. LOL. in fact, my surname isnt Tan at all. Den in embarassment, he ended the Conversation by saying he call de wrong person. I wOnder if this is oso a scam?

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saw this article in Kenny Sia's blog..he was really good.well done to teach those scammers a lesson

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