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Originally Posted by SakuraHime  passing should be ok.. haha
well i think the hard part is that chinese have a lot of words, phrases to be remembered! | i can doo well in chinse...haha A... but english...hmmmm... B or C .....
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Originally Posted by gyccy^^ soo..MOE mus come in n tel singaporeans the impotance of Mother Tongue 2.....  | 当然。。。新加坡政府推广华文,但是似乎进展缓慢,或许连进展都没
为什么?就是因为有些人假厉害,认为华文不重要,只加强自己的英文水平,做假洋人。 christmas_ added 0 Minutes and 52 Seconds later... Quote:
Originally Posted by gyccy^^ ya la..mus save.... if not he will die of not knowing how 2 speak chinese.. LOL | thats right...pls save him ok?
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16-06-2009, 06:31 PM
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i despise chinese ppl who dun even know how to speak chinese..
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16-06-2009, 06:33 PM
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Hey, i seriously think those who think chinese can throw away are noobs. You cant even speak your own language? English is the language of the west. We use it for general communication but never should you forget our roots. If we want to be good and professional, we should be effective in speaking both english and chinese
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16-06-2009, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cute wormz i despise chinese ppl who dun even know how to speak chinese.. | 我非常赞同你的说法...
anyway, nowadays Westerners can speak better Chinese than some of us, so i dont see why Chinese should learn their own language christmas_ added 2 Minutes and 59 Seconds later... Quote:
Originally Posted by hellight Hey, i seriously think those who think chinese can throw away are noobs. You cant even speak your own language? English is the language of the west. We use it for general communication but never should you forget our roots. If we want to be good and professional, we should be effective in speaking both english and chinese | say, not forgetting our roots, like this we should speak dialects  haha. well, but overall, Chinese also important as English
just my opinion only
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chinese is unimportant. because i most likely wouldn't interact with people who only speak chinese in the future. in your face, monolingual chinese.
btw, i'm very affluent in mandarin, if you're wondering.
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This isn't the worse... My teacher was telling my grp of friends and I to stop speaking in Chinese and converse in English (since English is the medium of teaching for most subjects) when we were doing that along the corridor some time ago... She's not even a language teacher btw. If teachers also discourage us to do so, what can we do? >.<
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16-06-2009, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ALCOHOLIQUE chinese is unimportant. because i most likely wouldn't interact with people who only speak chinese in the future. in your face, monolingual chinese.
btw, i'm very affluent in mandarin, if you're wondering. | oh? Quote:
Originally Posted by justleo This isn't the worse... My teacher was telling my grp of friends and I to stop speaking in Chinese and converse in English (since English is the medium of teaching for most subjects) when we were doing that along the corridor some time ago... She's not even a language teacher btw. If teachers also discourage us to do so, what can we do? >.< | you shouldnt bother about your teacher because:
firstly--she's not a language teacher
secondly--she has no rights to stop people from saying what languages they like
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16-06-2009, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by justleo This isn't the worse... My teacher was telling my grp of friends and I to stop speaking in Chinese and converse in English (since English is the medium of teaching for most subjects) when we were doing that along the corridor some time ago... She's not even a language teacher btw. If teachers also discourage us to do so, what can we do? >.< | If it is not during lesson time, teachers have no right to tell students not to speak in a certain language. A teacher can only do that during lessons, students should only speak English during non-MT lesson, and only MT languages during MT class.
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16-06-2009, 06:47 PM
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I agree that English is important. Because that is the most common langauge found among countries.
Chinese is still important, thought not as widely used as English.
I would prefer speaking English than Chinese. Although my Chinese exams are better than English
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16-06-2009, 06:49 PM
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My English exams are better then my Chinese 
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16-06-2009, 06:50 PM
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sad sia...i always fail my English exam (except during O levels) and always pass Chinese exam
haha...
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16-06-2009, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by christmas_ ask your friend to shut up...what a big disgrace for the more than 13 billion Chinese in this world !
we need Chinese because China is rising currently and will become a superpower next time and if we go China for work, cannot speak Chinese, then bye bye for you...even Westerners are learning Chinese too...so i dont see any reasons for Chinese people not learning Chinese or hate Chinese... | hahaha, sry to spoil the fun but world population only stands at 6 billion going 7 billion...
anyway
for him to have said that, it goes to show how powerderful his engrish is, well, if he wants to think that way let him be, he just wan to limit his social circle, let him be.
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16-06-2009, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by friendshipz hahaha, sry to spoil the fun but world population only stands at 6 billion going 7 billion...
anyway
for him to have said that, it goes to show how powerderful his engrish is, well, if he wants to think that way let him be, he just wan to limit his social circle, let him be. | now i feel like slapping myself for forgeting to put a dot in between the 1 and 3...
anyway, some people English bad but still fake ang moh...haiz
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16-06-2009, 06:58 PM
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Whatever it is, speaking only in english is such a limit. What happens if you're gonna do business in china or somewhere else? Its always good to learn more languages, not just chinese, like Korean, Japanese, French etc.
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english is indeed more impt but chinese cannot throw away mah
living in asia you don't know chinese how to survive?
i guess ur friend just anyhow say say bah
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16-06-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gyccy^^ "English more important, Chinese can Throw Liao", tis is wad one of my gd fren say...
jus bcoz english is far more important in sg, then we can throw away our mother tongue! in my opinion, if u r a chinese, its like a disgrace if u dunno ur own mother tongue language...... somemore my fren is frm a china family! he is borned and lived in sg but his parents r china ppl!(he failed his chinese badly)
WTH! n hu say chinese nt important also?
coments pls......
(woder tis threadis posted b4 anot...) | your friend is suffering from a disease called white complex; also contracted by girls known as spgs 
my chinese was (and is probably currently) bad because my family doesnt speak it (in the first place, their first language was malay, not chinese)
anyway, LKY say b4 le...dunnid force ur child speak english and only that...sch will handle his education in english...speak mandarin more
well, if it works out in future, i'll just leave it to the sch to teach my children english ba....i just attempt to converse wif them in chinese and malay ba  | |
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16-06-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by darkhonour your friend is suffering from a disease called white complex; also contracted by girls known as spgs
my chinese was (and is probably currently) bad because my family doesnt speak it (in the first place, their first language was malay, not chinese)
anyway, LKY say b4 le...dunnid force ur child speak english and only that...sch will handle his education in english...speak mandarin more
well, if it works out in future, i'll just leave it to the sch to teach my children english ba....i just attempt to converse wif them in chinese and malay ba | didnt know LKY actually said that...
lol you cannot be blamed coz you Perankan right?
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16-06-2009, 07:30 PM
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My apologies for my very long post, I've written this before, but I think it is apt to post it here too since the topic is now being debated.
I think it is harsh to say that Chinese language is inferior, but in every respect it cannot compare itself to the English Language. English Language may have a shorter history than Chinese, but that doesn’t lend any credence to your argument that Chinese as a better language more suited for use in the modern globalized society like Singapore. I totally agree that a language is a tool of communication. Singapore is a pragmatic society, the reason why English is seen as more desirable is that it opens opportunities and provides a better field in which people can communicate with each other.
Especially in highly technical and scientific fields in which many of the terms and nomenclature are in English. Not to mention that English is a language with a diverse vocabulary, which is a result of the intermingling of the various languages from the European mainland. English is not a language of its own, it has its roots in Latin, Celtic, Frisian, Norman French, and the Germanic languages of the Angles, Juts and Saxon.
Also another important factor to consider is that the medium of instruction in our schools is English, this means that all our subjects in the sciences and the arts are taught in English. Compare that to mainland China or Taiwan in which the medium of instruction is in Chinese, of course more emphasis is placed on the proficiency of English because if one’s comprehension of English is poor, the effect on one’s school grades is very significant, compared to a poor grasp of Chinese.
Each language has its own unique traits, comparing Chinese idioms to which English has none is not a fair comparison at all. English has its beautiful poetry and prose, precise technical latinate nomenclatures, stunningly diverse and ever evolving vocabulary. Btw, your arguments that many western researchers study the Chinese language doesn’t show that it is better than English in anyway, it only shows a causality in which the westerners are interested in Chinese, but by stretching the meaning/intention of interest to that of Chinese being better is a bit too far-fetched.
Also being an economic powerhouse doesn’t guarantee that the said country’s language would be the lingua franca of the international scene. Take a look at Japan and Germany, they are 2nd and 3rd economic powerhouses of the world (China might have overtaken Germany, I’m not sure), but Deutsch and Japanese have not gained widespread popularity like English has.
I’m not deriding Chinese language as inferior, it is always good to learn a new language, but Singapore is a country with almost zero natural resources. We survive on pragmatism, not nationalistic pride nor high ideals of liberty or human morality. That is why some people look down on Chinese Language in Singapore due to the "perceived" poorer prospects. Example, you can just pass Chinese and be admitted to a Government University, the grades only confer "bonus points". You can score an D7, and still get into University if your G.P. and the rest of your A level subjects are As and Bs. Whereas if you didn't score at least a B3 for your General Paper, you're going to be for a tough ride for some of the high demand courses like Business, FASS, Law, Sciences and Medicine.
The only way for people to see any value in the Chinese language is for them to value themselves as who they are. Those that look down on the Chinese language, inevitably look down upon themselves. Remember, the inherent value of a language is in its usefulness as a tool of communication. As long as people are using the language, there will always be a value in studying it.
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16-06-2009, 07:41 PM
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i still find english language bears more importance in singapore, though chinese language is picking up and we might be using it more commonly than now. and yes its a disgrace to not know a person's mother tongue, i'm guilty of it but so what  at the very least i can converse in it. though i suck at reading as well as writing. life goes on.
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