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Old 8th August 2018, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ESM Goh: Singapore will pay in the long run if we cut ministers' pay

ESM Goh: Singapore will pay in the long run if we cut ministers' pay

ELGIN TOH, DEPUTY POLITICAL EDITOR
Aug 08, 2018 06:00 am

Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong has sounded a warning that Cabinet ministers are not paid enough and that down the road, Singapore will be confronted with the problem of getting competent people to join the Government.

Speaking at a dialogue with South East District residents last week, he disclosed that MP Edwin Tong, a lawyer, took a 75 per cent pay cut when he became a senior minister of state on July 1.

Mr Tong previously earned more than $2 million a year as senior counsel and now makes about $500,000, Mr Goh said.

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Let's talk about moderation. We are not asking ministers to take extreme pay cuts and we are also not supportive of ministers to have sky-high pay and pay raise. Pay cuts will not attract talents yes to an extend. And may promote corruption. To sumnmarize as follows:

(1) When times are bad, Singapore people suffer with pay freezes and cuts, Ministers and public servants' pay should also be freezed and need to adjusted to balance the equation in times like those.

(2) Minister pay should not be sky-high - you will attract people only who 'work' for the pay, and also should not be too low, as it may not attract the appropriate talents who deserve the pay-grade, curruption.

(3) What we wish for and attract are the rare people who will work as ministers and for Singapore for moderate reasonable pay, and have the heart to truely serve.

Note that if you are not able to attract someone you see as 'talents' because of the pay, then its not actually worth it to recruit them because they see 'pay' as a factor over their duty to serve the nation and her people.

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One of the weakness of GCT is that he is a "short sighted" politician. If a foreigner gave him a bag of cash or goodies and told him:" Give it to your country, so that it can shut the mouth of your critics and that you will be "eligible" to continue to receive your million dollars salary". And GCT will reply:" Gee thanks foreigner, how will you like me to suck your banana?"....GCT is so short sighted to the point of being naïve, he will not question what are the motives behind those foreigner's "good intention"!!!

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Another thing I don't like about Mr Goh is that he is very stubborn, even if he make mistakes or realize he has made mistakes, he will not mend his way!! He might "temporarily correct his mistakes" due to pressure, but he won't really admit his mistakes or mend his way!!!

He might criticize or look down on LHL weaknesses, but GCT himself is no better!!! And the longer GCT remains in power, the worse he become!!


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I hate it when those Singapore PAP ministers import some "Trash Racist Foreign Talents" like you,.....In the end, those PAP ministers get F*** in the face by you this kind of foreign trash!!!

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I hate it when those Singapore PAP ministers import some "Trash Racist Foreign Talents" like you,.....In the end, those PAP ministers get F*** in the face by you this kind of foreign trash!!!
I post this cause I saw a Yahoo guy name "Rainbow" post a racist comment on an Caucasian American woman who face get disfigured by a gunshot wound, he wrote "Now I guess Chinese man would like to marry this Caucasian woman and born more Caucasian looking babies"

And you know what, the Yahoo moderators delete my posts, so I have to post it here!! If I am not wrong, those PAP ministers not only import "Trash Racist Foreign Talents", they also unknowingly, ignorantly and naively import "Trash Racist Foreign Spies" into our country,....Well done, PAP monkeys!!!


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And the Yahoo moderators has since delete all the old comments on the topic, fearing their scheme get exposed!! I hate this kind of cowards, no matter what are their race or gender!!! They are wasting our world precious Oxygen!!!

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During 2011 General Elections Opposition Nicole Seah with NSP challenged the PAP at MArine Parade GRC. NSP lost marginally with 59,900 votes against PAP's 78,200 votes. Nicole might be why they have such a high votes, and the reason why they still lost may be because NSP is still not a more popular party. This time Nicole joined WP and if they attack the same Marine Parade GRC again with no three or more corner fights no matter how good the third other opposition is, the chances of winning is there. We need to have some good Oppositions in Parliament, to remind PAP that they have to work harder for the people. But we do not want to overthrow the Government yet, not at this immature state where our Oppositions still have not shown enough credibility. there are people who wants PAP out, both local and foreign powers (religious, independant, political etc), but the country will be in chaos we are not like Malaysia. Keep good opppositions in Parliament, but at a healthy level. make PAP think out of the box and work harder for the people. Goh and Tan Chuan jin and the few others in MArine Parade are really expendable. They don't hold key important positions in Government and can be do away with. LHL saw that and had quickly transferred useless TanCJ to Speaker. The reasons why i see TCJ bad are because of his ego. Through his photos we can clearly see how distorted his perception of the world is, editing all the photos until they look like a HDR vomitting of colors. If he can take photos without editing and present them this way, at least we know he is not trying to 'paint' a 'perfect' picture. Anyway if you take the photos of things as it is, you are in fact being realistic about what the world is and accept its beauty as it is. Also a lot of basic rules in photography he do not complied with, e.g correcting perspective distortions and composition. if he is a nobody selling his photo, no one trust me will ever buy it. But the fact that he misuses his status as a public figure to sell the photo (and oh lord behind the name of charity), of course that are die-hard fans blind follower idols who will buy it. If you think you cannot take photos like what he did, you are wrong. If you have a chance to go to the places where he has been, 90% of the people can take even better pictures than he did, and without photoshopping and lightrooming trust me its a high possibility.

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