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Old 03-11-2009, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Female forumer worshipped MM Lee as a “national hero”

http://www.temasekreview.com/2009/11...national-hero/

From our Correspondent

A forumer at the popular forum for Singapore women moms4mom had started a thread proclaiming MM Lee as a national hero!

Using the moniker “industrious birdie”, she wrote:

“At the age of 86, he is still so charming and inspiring. I dread the day we would lose such a great leader. He has set standards difficult, if ever possible, for anyone to pass…..How can Singapore repay what MM and his family had done for this country? He’s mine and dear hubby’s national hero!”

In an immediate response, tinkerbell wrote:

“Oh yes, me too! He is my national hero too! I respect him so much and will forever be grateful to him! I even wanted to name my son after his English name. I will make sure I will educate my son about MM Lee’s contributions to the country.”

Chirpleader concurred:

“MM Lee is my hero. I am going to make sure that my kids know what he has done for Singapore. I want them to be proud of MM Lee of his achievements.”

Actually the forumers need not tell their children about MM Lee because he is in the news almost every other day.

Not a single week passed without MM Lee dispensing his usual “pearls of wisdom” to Singaporeans or to some wretched country in the world. It is hard to miss him given the extensive publicity he is getting day in and out from the state media.

Years of relentless propaganda through the government-controlled media have elevated MM Lee to the status of a great leader and international statesman.

However, his contributions to Singapore are grossly exaggerated while his flaws are hidden away from public view.

Though MM Lee is one of the founding fathers of Singapore, he is only after all a servant to the country. We do not really have to be grateful to him (eternally).

Without a capable team of colleagues and a population which is hardworking, thrifty and honest, MM Lee will not be able to achieve anything.

Singapore owes its success today not only to him, but to many other leaders as well. Our economic policy was formulated by Goh Keng Swee with advice from Dutch economist Albert Winsemius.

In fact, MM Lee made some critical mistakes which led to perpetual headaches for Singapore now.

For example, our birth rate is so low because of the “stop at two” policy introduced by him in the 1970s and we have no choice but to encourage immigration to replace our declining population.

MM Lee’s harsh treatment of his political opponents leads indirectly to the creation of a climate of fear enshrouding the citizenry with few citizens interested in politics.

This necessitates the ruling party to raise the salaries of MPs and ministers so as to entice capable men and women to join the government.

There is no proper system of leadership succession and renewal both within and outside the ruling party for the entire Singapore seems to revolve around him.

He should have retired gracefully from politics in 1991 when he stepped down as Prime Minister. A great leader is one who knows when to go when the time is ripe.

Just that readers of this site will never understand the blind faith these women forumers have in MM Lee, neither will they be able to see our reasoning that having an overwhelming “cult figure” in Singapore is unhealthy and undesirable.

No individual is greater than the country itself. For all his accomplishments, MM Lee is only a citizen of Singapore just like you and me. We do not have to go out of the way to ensure that our children will remember him.

In China today, few are able to recall Chairman Mao or even Deng Xiaoping, let alone the great Emperors in the past who have brought periods of peace and prosperity in feudal China.

History will have a more objective assessment of MM Lee’s merits and faults in 10 to 20 years to come after his passing.

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Old 03-11-2009, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wad a way to carry his balls

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Without MM Lee, there would be no Singapore, no future.

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86 yo still got balls meh?

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Without MM Lee, there would be no Singapore, no future.
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Although its a fact that SG will not be modernised SG without Grandpa Lee's vision, we should also not forget his team, no player made an entire team, regardless how great the player is, he still need his teammates.

Lets also not forget our forefathers whose tolls, blood, sweats & scarfices helped shaped SG to its present state.

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Agreed to a certain extend.
Saggy one lor yeah agreed

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Default Re: Female forumer worshipped MM Lee as a “national hero”

I'd stop short of calling this worshipping. Its more of an admiration imo. Sensationalism? Bah! Had enough of those. Personally, I am proud to have leaders such as him who helped steer Singapura into what it is today.

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I think they sound more sarcastic than 'worshipping' lol

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MM Lee is not the only person that transformed Singapore. there are also other people in his Cabinet that helped transform Singapore too

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No matter what. Singapore politicians are still better than most countries. Eg TW.

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Without Grandpa Lee, we would be speaking Malay now. Had it not for him, we wouldn't be enjoying the comforts we have now. Not trying to worship him or anything, but its true that without him, there won't be modern Singapore.

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Agreed to a certain extend.
give credit when its due...however he did not build modern singapore alone PAP old guards such as toh chin chye and goh keng swee also deserve credit as well

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charming gotta be kidding
they mus be really "HUNGRY"

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give credit when its due...however he did not build modern singapore alone PAP old guards such as toh chin chye and goh keng swee also deserve credit as well
This is a good point.

But I'm amazed that TR can still write a negative article based on some positive comments that netizens give! They should join Sin Ming as well!

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going on a rampage based on a few posts of admiration? running out of material i see.

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without him , there wont be singapore . so careful with ur words. dunno how to think of what ppl have done.

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Sound like dunnoe what.

Without his team, he will not be so sucessful like now...

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MM Lee transformed the country from fishing village to this current prosperity. Its already an amazing speed that a country could transform into what it is today in such a short time. Plus, he should be retiring, but he's assisting even though he doesn't need to. He could just fly around and nobody would even notice. Except for the grand welcome ceremonies other nations would create for him. He's a prodigy. Accept it. IF you can't, than I suggest you try living in another country for a few years... I bet you're gonna fly back here and stay peacefully.

Who likes taxes? But without taxes, can the nation's facilities grow? PLAY SIM CITY peeps. See how you might cope with a simulation that is 1000 times easier than actually playing government. Plus, if you were a leader, what happens below is really what you can't see. But MM Lee proved this point wrong to many people. He can still see beyond the high ranks around him. He sees with his visions and literal observation.

This topic will never end. Cause I'm sure there are people who will be able to debate this to no end... So Cheers to those with a vision for a better tomorrow.

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LKY stired nation-wide anger in China, by his comments that the United States should remain engaged in East Asia

http://www.silobreaker.com/lkys-spee...13598314807366

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MM Lee is not the only person that transformed Singapore. there are also other people in his Cabinet that helped transform Singapore too
Agreed.This team was able to transform SG to a Developed country,sth tat not many countries in asia could do in just a mere 35yrs..
But,i suppose tat it's almost time to allow new leaders to take over....

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