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Old 21st May 2008, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Foreigners versus locals

FOREIGNERS AND LOCALS?
which will you employ?
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Old 21st May 2008, 06:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Foreigners versus locals

My boss likes those cheap labours from China and India.

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Old 21st May 2008, 07:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Foreigners versus locals

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My boss likes those cheap labours from China and India.

i will take FTs cos of cheaper alternative, but oso need to to see what type of job u offering...

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

see whose cert higher, lowest salary expectation and experience.

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

better cert, low expectation of salary, have initiative, hardworking---of course foreigners

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Old 21st May 2008, 10:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Foreigners versus locals

actually, a lot of factors are taken into consideration.. not just nationalities..

for eg. if u need to hire a network engineer..

local
education: bachelor degree
yrs of exp: 3
expected salary: $5000

foreigner (for eg. india..)
education: masters
yrs of exp: 5
expected salary: $3000

who do u pick?

when i was working in a job agency last yr, i even encountered foreigners (india, mostly) who could even accept $1800 or $2000! their qualifications are AT LEAST DEGREE lor.. many are masters or even phd!!

but considering their previous salaries.. which is in rupee.. $1800 - $2000 is quite not bad to them liao! the stds of living in india and sg are different.. so i guess that probably explains why their expected salaries tend to be much lower.

another major factor.. generally, the attitudes are very different.. usually locals are more pampered (me included.. opps!).. they tend to be more demanding from their companies, especially when compared to foreigners. (if i'm working in a foreign land, i also wouldnt dare to be demanding lor!)

but still, locals have an advantage.. they dont have to apply for any EPs.. and they can fit very well into sg culture.. (OF COS.. haha!) so some employers still prefer to hire locals..

of cos, there's also some foreigners whose salaries are way, way higher than locals.. but well, they are bestowed with the brand, 'foreign TALENTS'.. premium staff commands premium salary.. i guess? haiz.

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

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local
education: bachelor degree
yrs of exp: 3
expected salary: $5000

foreigner (for eg. india..)
education: masters
yrs of exp: 5
expected salary: $3000
1 more thing.

Local
MC, Urgent Leave, Child sick leave

Foreigner
Everyday work

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Originally Posted by Siong2 View Post
1 more thing.

Local
MC, Urgent Leave, Child sick leave

Foreigner
Everyday work
Not really, foreigner are also human. They also MC, go for annual leave or emergency leave & somehow I see the local are much more hardworking than foreigners.

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

education: bachelor degree
yrs of exp: 3
expected salary: $5000
I also want it. I am USA B.Sc Degree with Honor, 10+ years of experiences but I only get $2500. What's wrong?

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I also want it. I am USA B.Sc Degree with Honor, 10+ years of experiences but I only get $2500. What's wrong?
You're serious? Maybe you can give a little background on your degree as well as what you do now? You should be making more than that.

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Originally Posted by Hirakawa View Post
I also want it. I am USA B.Sc Degree with Honor, 10+ years of experiences but I only get $2500. What's wrong?
10 plus years experience doing what?

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

I think local are better than the foreigners

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Originally Posted by free_gul88 View Post
I think local are better than the foreigners
I think for employers, the biggest issue is foreigners are cheaper.

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Money is everything, if u are boss, which do u want? Hardworking n cheap labour or expensive and lazy ones?

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Originally Posted by Hirakawa View Post
I also want it. I am USA B.Sc Degree with Honor, 10+ years of experiences but I only get $2500. What's wrong?
So what are you doing now? Manager? Or average employee?

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Money is everything, if u are boss, which do u want? Hardworking n cheap labour or expensive and lazy ones?
Yes, money is everything.

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Money is everything, if u are boss, which do u want? Hardworking n cheap labour or expensive and lazy ones?
Get the most effective person for the job, that's what matters.

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Get the most effective person for the job, that's what matters.
Effective and cheap.
If i am a boss i would engage FT
but i am an employee of course hope to have more locals lah

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Re: Foreigners versus locals

Here foreigners create a huge impact in economy, Foreigners deserve something more than work and salary here in Singapore. Foreigners are working here for Singapore's Development and helping boost the economy here. I guess everybody here will agree on this ? regarding foreigners working here. Last but not the least at workplace/community TEAMWORK Plays the role which we all shouldn't forget..

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Originally Posted by Sillyporeans View Post
Not really, foreigner are also human. They also MC, go for annual leave or emergency leave & somehow I see the local are much more hardworking than foreigners.
Sometimes foreigners can take VERY VERY long leave... maybe 2 months~~ dun think local can take that long

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