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Old 3rd February 2013, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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H1 Econs or H1 History?

(Asking for a friend) Would it be better to take H1 Econs or H1 History in YJC? Econs is a completely new subject while History was the elective in upper sec. Would appreciate some information on how the teachers are like etc.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Instead of worrying about the teachers, worry about what sort of degree you wish to pursue and craft your subject choices to suit that degree.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

I beg to differ, because if the teachers can't teach well, you won't do well in the subject, which ultimately affects whether you will be able to go to university.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Study on your own then. If you're gonna let how good the teacher is decide your grade then gg.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

H1 History. Content is exactly half of H2 History.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

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H1 History. Content is exactly half of H2 History.
Really? One of my friends who take H1 History say that the content is almost as much as H2 History...

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

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Really? One of my friends who take H1 History say that the content is almost as much as H2 History...
H1 History = International History
H2 History = International + Southeast Asia History.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

I am also confused to choose..
I just want to be realistic, which one is easier to score?
heard horror stories that econs are very very difficult

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

I would suggest you to choose carefully.

A level History is different from O level History. The former requires you to analyse the events and craft convincing arguments('higher order thinking') while you can score well for the latter with just mere memory work. I think one of the common mistakes a jc student makes is that they think a certain subject would be easy just cos they had done very well for it in their sec sch.(I'm one of them)

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

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I beg to differ, because if the teachers can't teach well, you won't do well in the subject, which ultimately affects whether you will be able to go to university.
Uh huh, you want to go to university, but you are basing your subject choices on "ease of study" and "quality of teachers" instead of "is my subject suitable for the university degree I want"?

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Study on your own then. If you're gonna let how good the teacher is decide your grade then gg.
Damn straight.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Let's put it this way:

You have a teacher who doesn't teach very well, and you don't know that. So you take that subject, and you get that teacher, and you are led to believe that what that teacher teaches is completely correct.
And then when your A level results come out, you realize all along you haven't been learning the correct thing.

I'm not saying that a student should completely rely on a teacher, but since a teacher's role is to guide learning, then it is important that the teacher should guide the student in the correct direction as well. It is a shared responsibility, the teacher in teaching and the student in learning.


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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Originally Posted by Rubyfur View Post
Let's put it this way:

You have a teacher who doesn't teach very well, and you don't know that. So you take that subject, and you get that teacher, and you are led to believe that what that teacher teaches is completely correct.
And then when your A level results come out, you realize all along you haven't been learning the correct thing.

I'm not saying that a student should completely rely on a teacher, but since a teacher's role is to guide learning, then it is important that the teacher should guide the student in the correct direction as well. It is a shared responsibility, the teacher in teaching and the student in learning.
Students who perform badly for being over-reliant on their teachers deserve it. It's not difficult to look for external resources and be more independent.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

history ! international history only is not that content heavy and difficult. SEA is just

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Gosh, I just want advice on the subjects and not a lecture/debate on how I (or anyone) should think. There's a deadline to meet for submitting subject combination choices.

Thanks to everyone who's given advice on the two subjects.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

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Gosh, I just want advice on the subjects and not a lecture/debate on how I (or anyone) should think. There's a deadline to meet for submitting subject combination choices.

Thanks to everyone who's given advice on the two subjects.
The advice is to not let the kind of teachers you get be a factor of your subject combination.

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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

IMO, the quality of teachers should not be used as a deciding factor when it comes to content subjects (i.e. subjects which involve a prescribed syllabus, as opposed to subjects like PW which you cannot mug for). A hardworking student with a "lousy" teacher is often more likely to do better than a lazy student with a "good teacher", because diligence is not something that someone else can impart into you, so a lot depends on how much hard work you put it.


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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

Originally Posted by kotaekun View Post
I am also confused to choose..
I just want to be realistic, which one is easier to score?
heard horror stories that econs are very very difficult
Not exactly true. The reason why many people would say it's difficult is, IMO, largely because it's a new subject. From my experience ,with enough effort, econs can be quite manageable and enjoyable. But a lot of patience is needed though. I flunked it a lot at first but manage to do better later on. The H1 Econs A levels paper last year was quite manageable with the questions being standard questions . But ultimately interest in the subject also matters in whether u do well or not. So, I would say go with what u are interested in. For me the reason why I chose econs was because I find econs very practical in real life (able to understand some jargons used in financial news etc) while I find history having very little applications.


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Re: H1 Econs or H1 History?

I took both H2 Economics and H2 history.
Basically H1 history is half of H2 history. H1 = international history, H2= international + southeast Asian history. I liked history since secondary school so H2 history is pretty much a breeze for me. Southeast Asian history is easy, IMO, but may be due to the way it is taught in my school.

H1 economics I have heard is similar to H2 economics but the marking may be slightly more lenient. Basically, history has a fixed framework for you to study, and it is more predictable to study. Often times economics require you to keep track of current events and current new economic jargon which is daunting. Then, you also face the fear that you have no idea if your teachers know what they're teaching. I faced 2 years of not knowing if I was doing the right thing but I stuck to the syllabus and read external textbooks all the time, thus getting me an A for H2 economics. FYI, I spent 2 years with an average of E-D grade for econs in school - really demoralising.

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