Is having AIDS Vaccine Necessarily a Good Thing?

**maverick1** · 25-09-2009, 04:41 PM

if you followed the news, you might have heard that there has been a breakthrough in research recently that may find an effective vaccine against AIDS in the near future.

I know, I know, that there are thousands of innocent children and people infected by AIDS through no fault of their own. And sure, an AIDS vaccine wld be good for them.

But if you put aside your obvious bias towards the fact that 'Vaccines MUST be good', I cannot help but think if having an AIDS vaccine is all that good a thing.

Just think about the message this will send to people who have always held off from casual sex because of this risk. The last layer of constraint against complete abandonment towards sex would have been removed and we will see a huge surge in the number of teenage pregnancies and abortions.

I may not know all the facts, but I think that for most of the innocent (ppl who did not deliberately engage in risky activities), contracting of AIDS is purely human fault, which can be easily prevented with greater awareness, processes and technology. Thus with or without the AIDS vaccine, this numbers should continue to decline as time goes by.

It is those who deliberately lead wanton lives, having casual sex and sharing needles, that need to be worried abt and these are the people who will have the greatest cause to rejoice with this vaccine isn't it?

Of course if you ask me today whether i wld choose to release the vaccine if i owned it, i sure wld. But i cannot but feel this ominous warning ringing loudly at the back of my head as i press the button.....

**maverick1** · 25-09-2009, 04:58 PM

Anyway here's the news report:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090924/...s_aids_vaccine

**DarkwinteR** · 25-09-2009, 05:28 PM

Oh that's cool. And yeah, what if there were no more AIDS to pose as a deterrent against people having casual sex? Global rise in casual sex?

In the first place, are teenagers susceptible to casual sex? Maybe with their partners or girlfriends/boyfriends. But I think the reason that most teenagers put off sex is not because of their fear of contracting AIDS but perhaps more because of self-costraint and moral values, though that is rapidly declining these days. Ask any teenagers that engages in sexual activities about whether they fear getting AIDS by having casual sex and they'll probably diss you off saying stuff like "Relax lah, also not go geylang or anything. My friend what, we all so young. Very healthy one lah". Thus I feel that the predicted 'increase in teenage pregnancies and abortions' might not even happen. Not if they practice safe sex using contraceptives.

So I think by having a vaccine for AIDS will not cause a boom of pregnancies and abortion. Yes, AIDS is one of the reasons that might put people off from leading casual lifestyles, but it is only ONE of the reasons. There are still moral values, relationships with other people that can act as deterrents. And anyway, AIDS is only one of the many STDs out there. So why should people fear AIDS any more than the other STDs?

**workingtoohard** · 25-09-2009, 09:32 PM

the concerns you are having are similar to those when abortion was made legal. but it's for the greater good... hopefully.

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Originally Posted by DarkwinteR

So I think by having a vaccine for AIDS will not cause a boom of pregnancies and abortion. Yes, AIDS is one of the reasons that might put people off from leading casual lifestyles, but it is only ONE of the reasons. There are still moral values, relationships with other people that can act as deterrents. And anyway, AIDS is only one of the many STDs out there. So why should people fear AIDS any more than the other STDs?

^ pretty much sums it up.

**RED.ADEN** · 25-09-2009, 10:41 PM

Personally I do not think the vaccine is a good thing.
I think treatment for AIDS will be better.

Vaccine will not be used on the most innocent people. For example the children forced to prostitution. Vaccine will most likely be used on the rich people - who sleeps around and deserves to get AIDS.

Once there's vaccine, I think it will encourage cheating partners too. As they will no longer have to worry about AIDS since sleeping around won't harm his family.

However, if it is treatment, people will still be more discreet as they're at risk of getting the incurable disease. And the people who had recovered from AIDS will learn a lesson (not to asleep around anyhow), the innocents will also be treated.

FlattenedCake · 25-09-2009, 10:47 PM

its good cos some people are raped and they kena so i think its not their fault.
regarding those guys who deserve it by going around and doing it, perhaps gov can give lower priority to them.

Jodar · 25-09-2009, 11:02 PM

Honestly, I won't be surprised if the vaccines were to cost a bomb. After all, it is something that will decide if a person lives or not. Governments are not likely to intervene to reduce the costs (they may subsidise it, but they will not forcefully exert their might on that pharmaceutical company).

**chatterbox** · 26-09-2009, 03:49 AM

The concept of healing is godly and withholding of a cure is surely not from god. Who are we to judge others? Are we so sinless that we have never do wrong in our life?
Where you are coming from is to uphold virtues and for that you yourself have taken side between good and evil? Should we withhold cure for other sexual disease also? Luckily we are not.
AIDS is no longer a problem of the promiscuous, who wallow in vilely activities. It involves lives of million of people involving babies, women and children. It's no longer restricts itself within the homosexuals.
However it is not a cure yet, only a vaccine which prevent more people from infections. The concern of such a vaccine will promote promiscuous activities is unfounded and doesn't warrant concern. Yes the vaccine will likely to find its way towards the sex industries and does not concern an average person. However one should think if a man were to patronize such service and did not take proper precaution, his wife will be the likely next victim. Is she not innocent?
Let us hope that a true cure would be found someday and the lives can be saved.
God bless us all.

**Asentua** · 26-09-2009, 06:23 AM

Morality is determined by the victors, society and the ruling party.
If you do anything, wear anything, or consume anything related to animals, you would be morally disinclined to a Vegan.

So in disregard to your additional concerns, having the vaccine is a good thing.

To me, it can be used as another way to discover the true nature of people around me.

**squiggle** · 26-09-2009, 07:03 AM

Of course a good thing. But 1 bad thing is. People can so called "any how do" & have no fear.

But maybe god created STD, AIDS & etc. To punish & prevent people from "any how".

**eeden** · 26-09-2009, 11:24 PM

Vaccine doesn't guarantee a cure for the disease.It only helps to helps the body to fight such disease when necessary.If the person is weak himself,even vaccination would not help at all.

Releasing the vaccine is one thing,educating the people on morality is another thing.Like what some has pointed out,what is morality in these days?Does it mean abstinence from sex?People do have their own opinions on morality,and i think that they have their rights to decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong,since life is about making choices.

**XinGaPoLang** · 27-09-2009, 03:08 AM

i think it's necessarily.. For those poor girls that get raped and stuff.. Can help to prevent them for getting it..

**DarkwinteR** · 27-09-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by XinGaPoLang

i think it's necessarily.. For those poor girls that get raped and stuff.. Can help to prevent them for getting it..

If I am correct, a vaccine only prevents you from getting the disease or whatever illness. It is NOT a cure.

So the "poor girls" need to go for the injection before they even get raped and contract the disease. Which brings us to another point. Will the vaccine be even readily available to the people? Cost is one issue.

kokojun · 27-09-2009, 02:47 PM

there isnt a cure for aids up to this day.. which is pretty sad.
having vaccines will lower risks of contracting aids only.
so those with aids now will still die. ):

**bishop99** · 28-09-2009, 11:07 AM

The vaccine isnt 100% guaranteed to work. so far only a good percentage of the test subjects have seen it work. based on sampling. it's still a while more before they know the vaccine actually works.

however, i'm in support of it work. a little hope for a cure would be great too actually. I'm not one who bothers of moral systems set by religious groups or anyone who claim to have a high moral high ground. it's just a stigma we placed on sufferers. and we should never discriminate based on our perceived notion of right and wrong.

Cheers!

**yakz** · 04-10-2009, 10:00 PM

another win for science!

now...if there were medicine for global warming...

**GilaQila** · 04-10-2009, 10:39 PM

o.O aids vaccine...isnt vaccine putting the a small amt of the virus into ur body so that ur body creates antibodies?
correct me if im wrong...coz i haven learned abt vaccine yet haha.

but if the vaccine works, thats good. next time i also wnna research on AIDS.

**cool_katz** · 05-10-2009, 12:49 AM

in a way it's a good thing that there is a vaccine..

**YogurtIcecream** · 05-10-2009, 03:55 AM

There's going to be a problem here if the vaccine is not made readily available to everyone.

Probably the rich of the richest are going to say "hey, we've got this vaccine, so it's ok to start infe...opps I mean, make love with everyone on the planet".

Right now though, they sort of combined two vaccines that didn't work...but yielded some results when combined...so they're still testing out the vaccine and finding out what made that work or something...so it's too early to say.

However, I believe that there will be an AIDS cure, just that it won't come out so soon...

I think of it as a positive sign.

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Thus with or without the AIDS vaccine, this numbers should continue to decline as time goes by.

Indeed, but how many have the moral fibre required to stick with this?
So numbers don't really decline at all...

AIDS can be a reason but there are so many other reasons to keep people from persisting in the wanton activities...

For those who don't care, it is often that these people just live for the moment and not keep their raging hormones in check....

**soxite** · 05-10-2009, 12:47 PM

Some cures or actions might result in a solution to a problem but give rise to another. The introduction of hares into Australia, the building of casino, etc. However, research into AIDS cure should not stop but having a cure would be a hope to those who are suffering. It's sad that they are suffering regardless whether they got it through birth, blood transfusion or promiscuous activities. It's not a question about moral but a question about helping fellow human kind.

If a simple statement that God brought the disease to punish a certain group of people, then we can apply the same reasoning for other disease like TB, cancer, SARS and so on. Even if disease is brought as a punishment, that doesn't mean we should all stand by and do nothing. If it is here to stay, the lest we can do is work towards a cure or cushioning the effects. This is where compassion and love comes in.

Yet, in the race to find a cure, I do sometimes feel that it is commercially driven rather than just out of compassion. Otherwise, why would it be worthwhile to do something? There are also costs involve and recovering such costs are just as important as the cure.

Having a cure for AIDS might increase sexual activity but even for now there is not cure, there is already an increase in sexual activities. Curiosity and the love of it can sometimes be the reasons not because of cures.