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Old 21st February 2010, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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how to many 大二爷伯 level in hell?

i am asking about how many da er ye boLEVELin hell?

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Re: how to many 大二爷伯 level in hell?

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i am asking about how many da er ye boLEVELin hell?
10
2 in every level

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Old 23rd February 2010, 10:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: how to many 大二爷伯 level in hell?

Dun mind me to add, bro warlock....

besides each pair at 十殿,there is another pair together with 地藏王 called as 地藏大二爷伯

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can somebody translate ?? 地藏王 ?? my chinese totally fail ..

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Ten courts..Di zhang wang?

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Di Zhang Wang is actually a monk that gave up the chance of being god in heaven and wanted to chant the prayers and lighten the burdens of the spirits that suffer in hell.In the end,he was given a title of god and continued to stay in hell to help the suffering spirits.

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Di Zhang Wang is actually a monk that gave up the chance of being god in heaven and wanted to chant the prayers and lighten the burdens of the spirits that suffer in hell.In the end,he was given a title of god and continued to stay in hell to help the suffering spirits.
From a Buddhist perspective, Ksitigarbha or Di Zhang Wang is a Bodhisattva, not a monk or god. He appears wearing the monastic monk robes unlike the other Bodhisattvas who are decked in heavenly clothes.

Bodhisattvas are not samsaric gods. They have made the aspiration to not attain Buddhahood to lead all beings to enlightenment. They are considered much more high ranking and powerful than gods.

In the sutra that talked about him, he was entrusted to guide all beings in the six realms in the era between Gautama Buddha's death and Maitreya's descent into the world.

Phra Malai in the Therevada tradition is quite similar to Ksitigarbha in some aspects.

http://waynedhamma.blogspot.com/2007...itigarbha.html

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From a Buddhist perspective, Ksitigarbha or Di Zhang Wang is a Bodhisattva, not a monk or god. He appears wearing the monastic monk robes unlike the other Bodhisattvas who are decked in heavenly clothes.

Bodhisattvas are not samsaric gods. They have made the aspiration to not attain Buddhahood to lead all beings to enlightenment. They are considered much more high ranking and powerful than gods.

In the sutra that talked about him, he was entrusted to guide all beings in the six realms in the era between Gautama Buddha's death and Maitreya's descent into the world.

Phra Malai in the Therevada tradition is quite similar to Ksitigarbha in some aspects.

http://waynedhamma.blogspot.com/2007...itigarbha.html

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Okie Okie..all i knew was he was a great guy who actually helps the spirits to lighten their burden in the process of their suffering

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go watch date with vampire 3, di zhang wang one of the main character

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LOL that guy acting was like a joker, totally doesnt look like one

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yes, he is not a god but a 菩萨....

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didnt know there are 10 lvl. usually notice the odd numbers levels only...

are the level ranked by seniority?

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Wow..you guys sound like you been there before

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Wow..you guys sound like you been there before
No, they have been here.

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why only 10..? i thought there're 18 levels in Hell?
sorry, i'm kinda noob at these. :p

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why only 10..? i thought there're 18 levels in Hell?
sorry, i'm kinda noob at these. :p
True,there's 18 levels of Hell.But not all level will have,like the last level,the recarnation level whr the drink is given out to the spirits to forget their past life.

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Hi boys,

more info for the subject. Took it from this local sintus website


http://pasiris.multiply.com/journal/item/10/10

It says for Tua Dee Ya Pek;

If you have read about the story of 大二爷伯 before, you probably have heard of different versions of their story depicting how the two deities died. Not that their stories are inconsistent but because there are actually more than a pair of 大二爷伯 in the netherworld. Now, why is this so? Is it not that there is just one pair? Apparently not. According to our 大爷伯, they are known as 黑白无常 in the netherworld and not 大二爷伯. The names 大爷伯 and 二爷伯 are created by secular folks to describe them as the Big Brother and Second Brother. These names are commonly used by the Chinese Teochews whereas the Chinese Hokkiens frequently address them as 大二哥爷. In the netherworld, the pair of deities is in fact known as 黑白无常. And, this is an appointment like Sergeants in the army. Hence, after reading our story on 大二爷伯, you will realize that some other 大二爷 may not share the same name as ours in the story. This is because 谢必安 and 范无救 are just one of the many pairs of 黑白无常 in the netherworld.

大二爷伯 from 白沙大爷坛

Centuries ago, in a Southern province of China, there were two sworn brothers by the name of 谢必安 and 范无救. Both were loyal *magistrate constables who worked as protectors of the Yamen.

*Magistrate Constables were constables protecting the Yamen just like present day policemen stationed in the Subordinate or High Courts.

At about the same period, opium was introduced into China. Chinese was tricked into believing that opium was 长寿糕, a tonic that could strengthen both body and mind. Hence, many people including 谢必安 and 范无救 were taken in by these lies and became hooked onto them. Soon, price of the opium rocketed. The situation became uncontrollable. Hence, the Chinese government decided to clam down on the drug dealers.

One day, one of the drug lords approached 谢必安 and 范无救 to bribe them into letting them deal with illegal activities in the province while they get free opium. The two constables, who were known for their righteousness, refused the offer. This infuriated the drug lord tremendously and made him turn on 谢必安. He reported to the Yamen that he was taking bribes from people. The Yamen immediately launched investigations on 谢必安 for the allegations against him. To prove his own innocence, 谢必安 decided to hang himself just outside the Yamen as his vouch to the Yamen that he remained loyal and innocent even to the end.

Early next morning, 范无救 was reporting to work when he found the body of 谢必安 hanging at the door of the Yamen. He was devastated by his death and angered by the accusations brought upon his beloved brother. After burying him, he decided to join his sworn brother in death by drowning himself in the sea. As in the Chinese saying, 虽不在同年同月同日生,但愿在同年同月同日死. It is literally translated as “though we were not born in the same year, same month and same day, but vouch to die in the same year, same month and same day”. This was a common undertaking by sworn brothers or sisters in those days. This loyalty and brotherly love displayed by 谢必安 and 范无救 touched the hearts of the deities in the netherworld. Hence, they were conferred as deities and are known as 黑白无常 to this day.

Do You Know?

1) Have you wondered why 大爷伯's tongue is long? Remember, he hung himself outside the Yamen...Fact is, those who commits sucide by hanging would have an extended tongue. However, the tongues depicted on most 大爷伯's statues are exaggerated. It would never be that long. Probably just extended to the chin area.

2) Was 二爷伯 fat even before he died? Not that he was fat but because when his body was found, he was already bloated with water. Most drowned victims are usually bloated beyond recognition.

3) According to research by a Taoist Priest, 谢必安 and 范无救 was the first pair of 大二爷伯 to be conferred as 黑白无常 in the netherworld. Is this true? At this time and age, who could still verify this fact?

4) Do you know that in the olden days, there was no such thing as 一殿 or 六殿大二爷伯? This only happened during the modern times during which upon the first arrival of the 大爷伯 to each temple, he would declare that he is 大爷 who happened to come up from whichever level. In simpler terms, it is only a matter of which floor they came from at that time.

5) People have a tendency to ask which 殿大二爷伯 belong to in your temple. However, many are unaware that it doesn't really matter which 殿 they come from for they all hold the same appointment - 黑白无常 in the netherworld.




http://pasiris.multiply.com/journal/item/12/12

Few months back I posted about another underworld deity called Dai Si Ya. Got into some lively discussion with some brothers here. Found more details abt it. Why I'm so interested was becoz once I saw a medium trancing this particulsr deity. It was quite disturbing as it was rather bloody; the deity when invited will self inflict injuries (medium is posssessed) till blood bled from his head wound and when he return he will do the same thing. This deity is quite rare in the sintua circle.


大士爷 is a ferocious-looking hell deity also commonly known as Dai Xi Ya by the Hokkiens. Interestingly, 大士爷 is one of the many manifestations (化身) of 观音娘娘 who is well loved by many for her compassion and benevolence. So why is she so different from the 观音 we all loved? The Netherworld is a place where the souls of the dead are. This face of 观音 is particularly stern to the evil souls so that they don’t misbehave in Hades.

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oo. thanks l0new0lf and Harleyquinn for the information ^-^!

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in 八家將 they are the 7th and 8th general

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Is there any info about "Bao Bei Ya"? one of the deity from hades.

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