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Old 28th June 2007, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36
Woman in her 50s was denied Ladies Night free-drinks privilege by club because she was 'above 35'

The Straits Times
June 24, 2007

By Jamie Ee and Baey Shi Chen & Jessica Lim

IN A black-lace top, a grey Gucci beret and tight jeans, Ms Violet Lim was dressed to party.

But at the entrance of Powerhouse in mega-club St James Power Station, a bouncer asked for her identity card, then denied her the five free-drinks vouchers typically offered to women on Ladies' Night.

The reason? She was 'above 35'.

Last Wednesday night, the 55-year-old dating consultant, a mother of two grown children, was told she had to pay for her drinks.

By then, she was so insulted, she left.

'They are too much,' she said. 'My girlfriends and I have been going to Ladies Night at various clubs for many years and we never had problems getting free drinks.'

The idea of Ladies Night at clubs works on the belief that the promise of free or discounted drinks for women will draw them in, and they in turn will attract men.

Being an adult woman is generally enough to qualify for the privilege - age notwithstanding.

But Mr Andrew Ing, chief operating officer of St James Power Station, said the club's coupons only extend to women 'who fit our target profile' - that is, 'young and trendy'.

'It's to protect the interests of our existing clientele,' he explained.

Two weeks ago, Ms Lim also failed to get the coupons, despite being dressed youthfully in a fitted jacket and trendy black slacks.

She was handed spa vouchers instead.

Similarly snubbed - and annoyed - was 36-year-old nurse Geraldine Lee, who is just one year over the Powerhouse age limit.

'It's like telling you you're old and won't attract guys, so go somewhere else,' said Ms Lee, who was at the club for the first time last Wednesday.

Even so, Mr Ing cited the club's right to turn away customers, and its right to give or refuse Ladies' Night privileges.

'Door policies have always been controversial because they can never be in black and white,' he said.

Yet, when The Sunday Times visited 10 clubs on their Ladies' Nights with Ms Lim and four other females in their 50s, most did not begrudge them the privileges.

Bouncers screened entrants for the under-aged, those who did not comply with dress codes or potential trouble-makers.

At popular clubs like Zouk, Ministry of Sound, and The Arena, the women were ushered in readily and served their drinks - no questions asked.

Still, service varied.

At The Butter Factory in Mohamed Sultan Road, one older woman was let in without hesitation, as a bouncer held the door open.

But at The Clinic in The Cannery at Clarke Quay, free-drinks vouchers were distributed 'at random'.

Bouncers offered one to three coupons to women depending on how well-dressed or attractive they were - a practice that one coupon recipient, Mrs L.E. Tan, 57, found 'definitely offensive'.

A 25-year-old Sunday Times reporter just in front of Mrs Tan in the same queue got three coupons.

At these incidents, Ms Constance Singam, 70, president of the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware), lashed out: 'They shouldn't call it Ladies' Night then. They should call it 'Young & Sexy Night'.'

Even men agreed, saying women should not be made to feel bad. At least, 'the club should make it explicit', said Mr Chew Tat Leong, 49, a computer firm employee.

From an older woman's point of view, he added: 'I would feel uncomfortable that I have to pay when younger girls don't.'

One was less inclusive.

American investment banker Jason Timothy, 25, said: 'I just don't think a 55-year-old woman would create a great atmosphere to attract men.'

He need not worry about Ms Lee or Ms Lim though - both have decided to boycott Powerhouse.

Said Ms Lim: 'If they think I'm old, why should I go in, stick out like a sore thumb, and still pay?'


What do you think Ladies Night free-drinks privilege by club shall only be

gave to Ladies below 36 year old share your comments

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practising discrimination.
& yes it suck totally ;(



its like, wad others just mentioned above.
does it mean that OLD ladies shouldnt be clubbing & should be only home to look after grandchildren or kids?
thats like so straight forward.

young or old, we are still ladies & HUMANS!
we have the freedom to go anywhre.


& also, its NEVER stated in T&C that ladies above age 35/36 aint entitled to free drinks on ladies night.
&&&& yes, if thats the case that theres a certain age limit to ladies on ladies night (for free drinks), i would strongly LOVE to see that its stated.

so any lady go has that thought of partying at this particular place, can actually still decide if she still wana party there

rather den when she & her pals are at that place, den denied free drinks.
not only embarrassing, its like.. making them feel they're NOT acknowledged

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

haha I feel is an insult lor that mean go clubbling ONLY APPLY TO THOSE UNDER 35 yrs old ladies


but I feel club should not set up this age limit .lor got some ladies she still haven;t marry also even she is 35 yrs and above.

I personally feel the club just want to save budget on this.
at least drinks must be pay for those above 35 yrs old

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

but the main point here is they were rejected to free drinks .
meaning they had to pay.


hais!
i mean its NEVER stated lor.
zzzz.

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

as usual lor .tropical incidents happen in sg

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

Wah discrimination outright.

Clubbing shouldn't really be about picking up people or be picked up.It's just about having fun and hanging out. Besides, there could be swinging middle-aged bachelors in it looking out for women in their 30s. And why do they deny that to women above 30 but not for men above 30?

Clearly it is double standards.

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

well, money come first , the rest doesnt matter...

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

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well, money come first , the rest doesnt matter...

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

How can they like tat treat those ppl lor.. altough they are above 36 doesnt mean they are not ladies wat.. ladies nite shld be meant for all women wat.. I bet that lady was really damn pissed off liao lor..

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

Lol. My friends just started a discussion regarding this issue too. I see what they're trying to do is to really draw more sales...if there're more young and attractive ladies in the place, then naturally more guys will come too. But by stating it so openly and making it their policy, that's really a dumb move. Only provoke people and ultimately affect their sales too. =.="

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

I felt there shouldnt be any age limit,hurt ppls' prides.

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

old doesnt mean not attractive wad.. How can they do that?! haiz.. Ppl will grow old one mah..

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

well its just discrimination by the clubs. I am sure other clubs may be having this practice as well, but they do it discreetly and w/o offending the female customers.

In this incident, the ladies are made embarrassed by the fact that they are deemed unattractive just becos they are over 35.. WTH!!! Who ever said that females above 35 are nt attractive in the 1st place??:disgust2:

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

there is another news on the today paper... yesterday one..

one lady was writing in.. apparently she was refused free entry into the powerhouse because she did not dress up like a lady... she was in a business suit, with pants and leather shoes...

she said if thats the case, then it should be renamed dress-like-a-lady night and that all men who dress like ladies should be given free entries...

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

I first heard of this issue over the radio1003. Well, if they wanna to have a age limit, they should call it "young ladies" night instead of using the generic term "ladies".

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

Maybe the pubs/ clubs should had put them in fine prints to avoid being misleading... Can understand the frustrations of those over-the-intended age ladies being rejected the FOC drinks... not so much due to the cost of the drinks (I'm sure they are damn able to pay for their own drinks!!) but it's the sheer humiliation & discrimination lor... :handsup: Haiz... that's life..

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

Originally Posted by huitingsmile
How can they like tat treat those ppl lor.. altough they are above 36 doesnt mean they are not ladies wat.. ladies nite shld be meant for all women wat.. I bet that lady was really damn pissed off liao lor..

well in the world of profit for clubs and disco, the age of the girl mean a lot and the money the men have also mean a lot....

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

That is very discrimination to ladies. Mature lady r ladies also, some of them may even look attractive even they are over 35 or even 50. They have what the younger ladies dont have that kind of mature beauty. I actually find them chio and attractive. The men who go pubbing are not all young men wah. some are also uncle category.
Jus let it be.


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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

lolz.. wow! that is so messed up...

the guy was so blunt with his reason too!
it was to attract the young and trendy xD nice

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

aiyoh! this sort of thing is very downgrading!
why young and trendy only?!
why cannot all LADIES!
does it mean that above 35 not lady already??

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Re: Ladies Night - but only if you're under 36

maybe ladies above 35years old is mummy to them???
aiya~ stupid tactics... usually women at this age can spend more than young girls
by the way, i hate clubbing

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