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Old 10th July 2011, 05:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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im a virgin !!!! lololol !!!

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i agree that having a club that provides information on safe sex sounds more practical since there's no way u can verify whether someone abstains after joining this club...

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So how is this club going now?

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Old 10th July 2011, 11:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i agree that having a club that provides information on safe sex sounds more practical since there's no way u can verify whether someone abstains after joining this club...
So you would support this club if it is formed?

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Lols。我不知道。以后的事很难预料。(In Ang Moh accent)

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aiyo, this is just for fun and to let everyone know that there are others who support the same principles as you. if you wanna lie to get in, so be it lah. the whole idea is to encourage ppl to abstain (from now onwards) till you make that 'for better or worse' commitment to that someone special.

if you subscribe to this principle, or want to, you shld sign up

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I am married, I have a son.

And I would like to sign up

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Old 11th July 2011, 11:05 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I am married, I have a son.

And I would like to sign up
sorry, u don't qualify

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So you would support this club if it is formed?
yes, although some may say that nowadays people can just get whatever info they need from google but having such a club in a forum allows discussion if one bothers to ask for help.

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My soul is pure but my body's pure evil... the mind is strong but body is weak... can't join.

But cool idea though :p sure got everyone talking about it :p

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does male masturbation count as losing his virginity?

does female masturbation count as her losing her viriginity?

what IS virginity?

When was it given? How can it be lost?

Sorlie. Just losing it again.

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Re: Official SGC abstinence before marriage Club

Originally Posted by tastetherainbow View Post
does male masturbation count as losing his virginity?

does female masturbation count as her losing her viriginity?

what IS virginity?

When was it given? How can it be lost?

Sorlie. Just losing it again.
If you want to consider masturbation...then its super difficult...

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Old 13th July 2011, 04:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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If you want to consider masturbation...then its super difficult...
Look, the point is not whether virgin or not virgin.

YES Virginity IS Important!
But so is the condom!

The problem is how long can you last without Sex!
The kamma sutta lists dozens of ways you can have sex, and your general sex education also suggests dozens of ways you can prevent conception or transmission of sexually transmitted diseases.

When I had my first sexual intercourse, I was 29. I am 30 this year. Is that early or late? Have I missed the boat or something? My other half, I barely know, said not first time. How to prove? Used three condoms, no experinece mah. After that I worry for so many days I went to go SATA for two rounds of HIV checkups, first round say ok, but 6 months later come back again. I don't understand what the nurse meant, so I came back 3 months later. Luckily both passed.

Just two months ago I had a second intercourse, this time another person. One condom settle it all, then quickly rush to pick sibling back from school. I still haven't decide whether to go for checkup or not.

The point is, the danger is real!

But what is the problem we are trying to solve here?

Is it Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs 4th or is it 5th layer, the human desire for intimacy, vs the 3rd or is it 4th layer, the need for emotional and physical security.

You want to be a virgin? Fine by all means go ahead.

You want to be a monk too? Well, the Buddha said you gotta ask your parents first...

I think where my experience has gotten me so far, it is not a problem to be or not to be. It is a issue of being true to yourself. If you know that that joker is not going to be your lifelong partner, why give your first time to him? Unless you are saying you are that desperate (like me) or that drunk (like tV).

Everything is about problem solving skills, and whether sexual intimacy, before-or-after, is a problem or not, it depends on whether you perceive it as a problem or not. If it is a problem, then fine, you will fine a solution. If it is not a problem, then it will be like my past two encounters, I wonder if the two idiots remember to use a condom the next time they get into the same situation or not>.


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Originally Posted by tastetherainbow View Post
does male masturbation count as losing his virginity?

does female masturbation count as her losing her viriginity?

what IS virginity?

When was it given? How can it be lost?

Sorlie. Just losing it again.
Nice questions Not enough people ask it, and not enough are comfortable with answering it.

Virginity = Seal of Freshness

Virginity is a concept from olden times when men dominated society and women were bartering pieces. It was basically a way of promoting their women to make them more attractive to potential suitors. However after Virginity is confirmed (and sold away) the next quality comes Fertility = Tastiness and Nutrition level.

The moment you pop it, its sold. However in some societies people refuse to buy girls after the seal is popped, but they're perfectly fine buying the popped guys. Depends on who you're selling it to mainly, and it also depends on the content inside the seal. Some contents are so delicious that even after getting popped, people still want to have it.

The only way to rebuke the concept of Virginity is to believe in an ideology that minimizes its importance-- ala Free Love, the Hippie fad of the 1960's. But on that note, you'd have to find people who believe in it as well.

As for Masturbation, think of it as a sneak peak of an upcoming movie. Some people are horrified and disgusted at the idea of spoiling oneself before the movie even begins, while some others find it a no-biggie and prefer to get spoiled to know whether the movie is worth their money before they buy the tickets.


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Rubbish.

I am not saying or suggesting that what you uphold and preach are wrong.

I am just saying that when you go to the psychotherapist and tell the doctor, I think I am crazy, and he asks you to show him your mind so that he can treat it, the ptoblem is, how can you show him ur mind? Where is the mind even located?

If you cannot even locate it in the first place, like virginity, how can it be lost (edit: or treated?)



still, i enjoyed ur anecdote about the sael of freshness. feels like... a bottle of soured pickles. like what it tastes like after u don't wash your meimei and didi properly

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Rubbish.

I am not saying or suggesting that what you uphold and preach are wrong.

I am just saying that when you go to the psychotherapist and tell the doctor, I think I am crazy, and he asks you to show him your mind so that he can treat it, the ptoblem is, how can you show him ur mind? Where is the mind even located?

If you cannot even locate it in the first place, like virginity, how can it be lost (edit: or treated?)



still, i enjoyed ur anecdote about the sael of freshness. feels like... a bottle of soured pickles. like what it tastes like after u don't wash your meimei and didi properly
While I do agree that the 'preciousness' of virginity is a little over-rated, it does, to a certain extent, say something about your attitude towards love and relationships. Sex is, after all, the deepest level of physical intimacy that two person can reach together.

I wouldn't mind if my future girlfriend or wife is or is not a virgin, but my warning system will surely ring if I find out that she had sex with 10 or more men before me (just a random number), none of them her boyfriend (or boyfriends for less than 6 month).

Meanwhile, I will abide by abstinence before marriage. True, there's no way for guys to prove whether or not he is virgin, his experience level, etc. But this is not the point. Abstinence is not something you do to show off to people or wayang to your gf/bf that you have 'high moral values'.

Its about me, myself and my attitude towards relationship between a couple. I will never have sex with a girl until I've make the commitment and vow to stay by her regardless of whatever that may happen. I will never use her body to satisfy my lust until I can make sure that I can connect with her emotionally first. This is my respect and love for my future spouse.

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Rubbish.

I am not saying or suggesting that what you uphold and preach are wrong.

I am just saying that when you go to the psychotherapist and tell the doctor, I think I am crazy, and he asks you to show him your mind so that he can treat it, the ptoblem is, how can you show him ur mind? Where is the mind even located?

If you cannot even locate it in the first place, like virginity, how can it be lost (edit: or treated?)



still, i enjoyed ur anecdote about the sael of freshness. feels like... a bottle of soured pickles. like what it tastes like after u don't wash your meimei and didi properly
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Originally Posted by tastetherainbow View Post
Rubbish.

I am not saying or suggesting that what you uphold and preach are wrong.

I am just saying that when you go to the psychotherapist and tell the doctor, I think I am crazy, and he asks you to show him your mind so that he can treat it, the ptoblem is, how can you show him ur mind? Where is the mind even located?

If you cannot even locate it in the first place, like virginity, how can it be lost (edit: or treated?)



still, i enjoyed ur anecdote about the sael of freshness. feels like... a bottle of soured pickles. like what it tastes like after u don't wash your meimei and didi properly
?? I was preaching? Besides I'm not here to dictate, I'm just offering my opinions.

Firstly there is a way of checking for the Virginity of Females, that is by the tearing and bleeding of the hymen. Which is why I used the Seal of Freshness as an analogy. In olden days, newly wed brides were judged by the blood on the sheets. Although scientific studies have shown that not all hymens bleed, it is still a measuring stick for most.

The virginity of guys on the other hand, like the existence of god, is something most believes exists and a lot of people swear by but no one has been able to prove with concrete evidence yet.

While I liked the fact that you chose to question the concept of virginity instead of taking it as a matter of fact part of life, your attitude and response leaves much to be desired. The analogy I've used is to be thought about, not taken as it is. As virginity is not some tangible object you can touch and hold, I can't give you concrete answers or a THIS IS VIRGINITY chart so you can use it to find whatever Virginity is.

Instead I use analogies and talk about ideological concepts because that is what Virginity is, an idea of how a person should be, should behave. Virginity is more an attitude than a physical quality, an Ideal instead of a Itemized part of the human body. If you can't even grasp that Virginity has less to do with the physical than the mental, then you can flush down the drain everything I've just typed.


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You know poopeeka. Sometimes I open a can, nicely sealed and all, only to discover that it did not present to me fresh stuff, but rotten crap festering in a can.

You can't judge a can by its seal.

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