Online Handphone Seller Scam - Page 3

**azzaro23** · 24-06-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econtse

Yes, I agreed with you....so careless this time as I keep having good online shopping experience across region so far, ranging from 50,000Yen laptop to few thousand USD mountain equippment. 1st time to do online shopping in S'pore and got the crap.

Hi all,

Keep a lookout for anyone using this email for online purchase

marksimcs@gmail.com

Saw a post over at wholivesnearyou.com, suspect it is the same person up his dirty trick.

http://www.wholivesnearyou.com/viewitem.php?iid=118138

Do click on the URL to look at the ad he post.

Meanwhile will test him out by replying to his ad.

Will keep you all post.

**econtse** · 24-06-2009, 01:50 PM

Thanks, Arozza, do keep us in post. I have already reported my case to the web administrator of ST701 and 88DB and they have already de-activated his account in both website. I shoot an email to UOB bank and report my case to them too. I don't know what will the bank do with his account but obviously he abused his UOB account for criminal activity. I will call my police case-in-charge by Friday to see what else I can do. Any update from your police investigation officer?

econtse

**azzaro23** · 24-06-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econtse

Thanks, Arozza, do keep us in post. I have already reported my case to the web administrator of ST701 and 88DB and they have already de-activated his account in both website. I shoot an email to UOB bank and report my case to them too. I don't know what will the bank do with his account but obviously he abused his UOB account for criminal activity. I will call my police case-in-charge by Friday to see what else I can do. Any update from your police investigation officer?

econtse

The Investigation Officer basically just say to indirectly not quoting word to word it my fault for begin naive and kenna cheated. But I will still note down your case for further references if he got the intention of upgrading to more serious crimes.

Anyway he is using both a UOB and a POSB account to cheat and 2 local mobile phone number to sms victims.

**Rossy** · 25-06-2009, 01:52 AM

This is an actual thread from email conversation. This guy is still around! The website is still there. The POSB and UOB accounts are still there. People are still being conned. Get real - New 3Gs Iphone for S$350. Singtel has not even stock it up yet. The worse thing is that you would not even get a cheap fake Iphone from China which can still cost about S$120. You get NOTHING!

Electronic mail name is dewsberries.gmx.com and indusgloballine.com
His reply:

Hi,

I got the first shipment on 23 June.

I do not have any paypal.

We using a key software to unlock it from AT&T. And we will give you a copy of the software along with the package.

You can send the payment via my POSB or UOB account by Internet Bank Transfer or ATM Fund Transfer.

POSB Bank
Type: Saving
A/C no. - 030837320

UOB Bank
Type: Saving
A/C no. - 3583752305

After you make the transfer. Can you sms to me to let me know and I will do a verify and process with your order. For payment received today before 8am tomorrow morning I can have delivery on 9-11am, after that hour will be at 4-6pm if payment received before 1pm thereafter will be on the next working day.

Is the below delivery address and receive person confirm.
Name:
Address:
Contact Number：

1 to 1 exchange within the first 7 days and we both party agree to share half the courier fee.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

Directly dewberries.gmx.com (electronic mail no)
SMS only: 94208000

order and pay online and receive on your doorstep within 24hrs.

Reply:

Hi,

It already the latest version of software as these are all 2009 set.

All our set is brand new if any problem we provide 1 to 1 exchange.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

SMS only: 94208000

order and pay online and receive on your doorstep within 24hrs.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes. Selling without a contract for $350 USA set can use with any simcard including starhub and singtel.

This is a real iPhone and I offer 1 to 1 exchange within the first 5 days but both party must agree to share half the courier fee.

I have the older version 3G set for 8GB at $220.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

**azzaro23** · 26-06-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rossy

This is an actual thread from email conversation. This guy is still around! The website is still there. The POSB and UOB accounts are still there. People are still being conned. Get real - New 3Gs Iphone for S$350. Singtel has not even stock it up yet. The worse thing is that you would not even get a cheap fake Iphone from China which can still cost about S$120. You get NOTHING!

Electronic mail name is dewsberries.gmx.com and indusgloballine.com
His reply:

Hi,

I got the first shipment on 23 June.

I do not have any paypal.

We using a key software to unlock it from AT&T. And we will give you a copy of the software along with the package.

You can send the payment via my POSB or UOB account by Internet Bank Transfer or ATM Fund Transfer.

POSB Bank
Type: Saving
A/C no. - 030837320

UOB Bank
Type: Saving
A/C no. - 3583752305

After you make the transfer. Can you sms to me to let me know and I will do a verify and process with your order. For payment received today before 8am tomorrow morning I can have delivery on 9-11am, after that hour will be at 4-6pm if payment received before 1pm thereafter will be on the next working day.

Is the below delivery address and receive person confirm.
Name:
Address:
Contact Number：

1 to 1 exchange within the first 7 days and we both party agree to share half the courier fee.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

Directly dewberries.gmx.com (electronic mail no)
SMS only: 94208000

order and pay online and receive on your doorstep within 24hrs.

Reply:

Hi,

It already the latest version of software as these are all 2009 set.

All our set is brand new if any problem we provide 1 to 1 exchange.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

SMS only: 94208000

order and pay online and receive on your doorstep within 24hrs.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes. Selling without a contract for $350 USA set can use with any simcard including starhub and singtel.

This is a real iPhone and I offer 1 to 1 exchange within the first 5 days but both party must agree to share half the courier fee.

I have the older version 3G set for 8GB at $220.

Cheer
Don
PS: Just stay cool every morning is a fresh day to start with

Yup that is the same guy up to his old tricks.

Even the quote he using is the same. Lol...

Well on my side nothing much can be done even with a police report in hand.

Not worth to take up a private summon against him.

Any ideas how we can deal with this guy?

**econtse** · 27-06-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Yup that is the same guy up to his old tricks.

Even the quote he using is the same. Lol...

Well on my side nothing much can be done even with a police report in hand.

Not worth to take up a private summon against him.

Any ideas how we can deal with this guy?

Hi, All, Honestly, I still don't understand why Sing Police can do NOTHING on that...When I reported my case, the officer can use my FIN/NRIC to check my registered address. We knew that criminal Don Dewberries Lim's bank and account number already. How come the Police can't go to the bank and get his NRIC to check out his address. Also, Police can do IP address check and identify his location. Just request those website to provide item an IP address log for his scam Ad only. This have been already used by a lot law enforcement units in oversea.

To me, they are totally inefficient.

**azzaro23** · 27-06-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by econtse

Hi, All, Honestly, I still don't understand why Sing Police can do NOTHING on that...When I reported my case, the officer can use my FIN/NRIC to check my registered address. We knew that criminal Don Dewberries Lim's bank and account number already. How come the Police can't go to the bank and get his NRIC to check out his address. Also, Police can do IP address check and identify his location. Just request those website to provide item an IP address log for his scam Ad only. This have been already used by a lot law enforcement units in oversea.

To me, they are totally inefficient.

Simply they can't be bothered to handle such a small case. Simply bochup.

x-kelvin · 02-07-2009, 09:29 PM

This guy, is in charge of indusglobal and switch fusion, and i dun think anymore things.
To check on him, just use the ATM number provided

try reporting to CASE?

x-kelvin added 0 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

before i forget. check this.
http://www.switchfusion.com.sg/contact.html

**azzaro23** · 04-07-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-kelvin

This guy, is in charge of indusglobal and switch fusion, and i dun think anymore things.
To check on him, just use the ATM number provided

try reporting to CASE?

x-kelvin added 0 Minutes and 46 Seconds later...

before i forget. check this.
http://www.switchfusion.com.sg/contact.html

Think CASE is just a mediator for disputes between retailers and customers, they don't get involved in so call cheating cases.

**Tan anna** · 07-07-2009, 12:02 AM

Hi I almost fall for his tricks too but thank goodness my bf is smarter then me.

if u need more emails conversation evidence that he is actually doing that to other ppl too, do let me know! i will keep it for the time being! =)

**Gateux** · 07-07-2009, 12:22 AM

If you want to buy iphone, go to www.apple.com and get the iphone 8gb @ USD$99 = SGD$144 then top up some more money to ship to Singapore via vpostusa.

However you must know how to unlock the iphone if not you cant use it in Singapore, i had a few friends who ask another friend who frequent visit the states for business trips to buy the iphone and hand carry for them, they manage to use some tools to unlock it and used for 1 year liao.

**Fujiwari** · 07-07-2009, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Hi all

Just wondering if anyone purchase any handphone from this website.

indusgloballine.com

I order a Apple Little iPhone from them and I transfer the cost of the phone which is about $230 SGD to the allocated bank account.

Tranfr the money to them on Tuesday and arrange delivery on a Wednesday morning.

Till now I yet to get the phone. Call up no one answer mobile. Send email quoted courier got problem that y delay.

Keep rearranged courier time until to this date I yet to get the phone.

Anyone got any experiences dealing from this online store.

Got a very strong feeling I kenna conned.

I must say you brought this mishap to yourself. Why pay for some look-alike? You jolly well know what is real and what is not and you still paid $230 for someone you don't even know. Sorry to say this, but really, it's your fault this time. In future, try to pry for more personal information before you really transfer money into a bank account.

Or better still, meet up, get the business and done. Police need evidence of scam or they won't act. It's like feeding money to someone.. that's one reason why I don't purchase online stuff. There is just no trust in them.

Just don't make the same mistake twice. I'm not saying all online shops/ blogshops are bad, but the reputation caused by the scammers just condemned it.

Just my honest opinion.

**azzaro23** · 07-07-2009, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateux

If you want to buy iphone, go to www.apple.com and get the iphone 8gb @ USD$99 = SGD$144 then top up some more money to ship to Singapore via vpostusa.

However you must know how to unlock the iphone if not you cant use it in Singapore, i had a few friends who ask another friend who frequent visit the states for business trips to buy the iphone and hand carry for them, they manage to use some tools to unlock it and used for 1 year liao.

But from what I see on the website you have to like open a AT&T line to purchase it.

So how do u order online from apple.com unless I have a friend over at states who is willing to sign on a plan for my behalf.

**sirjimmy** · 07-07-2009, 10:20 AM

These ppl making it very diffcult for decent ppl trying to start-up online... -_-

**azzaro23** · 07-07-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tan anna

Hi I almost fall for his tricks too but thank goodness my bf is smarter then me.

if u need more emails conversation evidence that he is actually doing that to other ppl too, do let me know! i will keep it for the time being! =)

Glad you are not a victim of this person. Well I am not sure the email conversations you kept will be of any use as the SINGAPORE POLICE FORCE is not keen in taking up out case until he escalate to more serious crimes.

So lets hope he slip up then.

**BlacknWhite** · 07-07-2009, 01:13 PM

FAke wan.. no use u wan sms ppl oso very hard

**bumble_bee** · 08-07-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Hi all

Just wondering if anyone purchase any handphone from this website.

indusgloballine.com

I order a Apple Little iPhone from them and I transfer the cost of the phone which is about $230 SGD to the allocated bank account.

Tranfr the money to them on Tuesday and arrange delivery on a Wednesday morning.

Till now I yet to get the phone. Call up no one answer mobile. Send email quoted courier got problem that y delay.

Keep rearranged courier time until to this date I yet to get the phone.

Anyone got any experiences dealing from this online store.

Got a very strong feeling I kenna conned.

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Hi, just to share ... my friend did the same like u. Bought on line, transferred money thru UOB on tuesday, waited for 8-10pm for the phone to be delivered on Wednesday but the item was not really delivered. They arranged for self pick-up in a given address just to find out it's an abandoned house. I accompanied my friend to report the incident to the police last Friday night . Hope u have reported too, so this person will be traced and caught. It's really risky to transact on line, one must be very careful and not so trusting. I think the website is still working, my friend and I constantly check it.

**azzaro23** · 08-07-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bumble_bee

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Hi, just to share ... my friend did the same like u. Bought on line, transferred money thru UOB on tuesday, waited for 8-10pm for the phone to be delivered on Wednesday but the item was not really delivered. They arranged for self pick-up in a given address just to find out it's an abandoned house. I accompanied my friend to report the incident to the police last Friday night . Hope u have reported too, so this person will be traced and caught. It's really risky to transact on line, one must be very careful and not so trusting. I think the website is still working, my friend and I constantly check it.

Hi Bumble Bee, i have already made a police report already but sad to say the police is willing to take note only no action will be taken.

So indirectly the police is saying I am stuip to fall for his scam so I have to live with it.

azzaro23 added 308 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fujiwari

I must say you brought this mishap to yourself. Why pay for some look-alike? You jolly well know what is real and what is not and you still paid $230 for someone you don't even know. Sorry to say this, but really, it's your fault this time. In future, try to pry for more personal information before you really transfer money into a bank account.

Or better still, meet up, get the business and done. Police need evidence of scam or they won't act. It's like feeding money to someone.. that's one reason why I don't purchase online stuff. There is just no trust in them.

Just don't make the same mistake twice. I'm not saying all online shops/ blogshops are bad, but the reputation caused by the scammers just condemned it.

Just my honest opinion.

For your information I am not buying becos it is a Iphone I am buying it as a novelty item and as a phone with a dual sim capabilities.

Doesn't mean i buy this I deserved to get cheated all right?

**bumble_bee** · 09-07-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Hi Bumble Bee, i have already made a police report already but sad to say the police is willing to take note only no action will be taken.

So indirectly the police is saying I am stuip to fall for his scam so I have to live with it.

azzaro23 added 308 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

For your information I am not buying becos it is a Iphone I am buying it as a novelty item and as a phone with a dual sim capabilities.

Doesn't mean i buy this I deserved to get cheated all right?

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Yeah, that's what the police also told us. We were thinking why they could'nt easily track down this person. They said this scammer might have used fake identity. This means that he had fake documents too? Banks are kinda strict in their procedure if someone opens an account. So, we were wondering??? Hehe, hope no other victims will be added in the list. But thanks for sharing this, at least we have a venue to communicate same concern.

**azzaro23** · 09-07-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bumble_bee

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Yeah, that's what the police also told us. We were thinking why they could'nt easily track down this person. They said this scammer might have used fake identity. This means that he had fake documents too? Banks are kinda strict in their procedure if someone opens an account. So, we were wondering??? Hehe, hope no other victims will be added in the list. But thanks for sharing this, at least we have a venue to communicate same concern.

Well from what I know it is totally bullcrap from their side. They have the authority to check on any info just they simply no see the point to waste their "precious" manpower to help us.

I do believe in the Singapore way of governing but have totally no trust in the police system.