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Old 16th February 2013, 07:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Passion VS Pay? (Future Planning)

To all the university students and working adults..
How did you ended up choosing your career path?
I'm sure all of you guys have ambitions for your futures.
But, did you guys actually managed to become what you wanted?
Or did you have to change paths because of the job prospects and pay issues?
Currently, I'm a dilemma in deciding what I am going to do with my life now that poly is "unofficially" over.

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Old 16th February 2013, 08:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Err... I like to play computer games and hacking into games to boost my levels, thus I stuided IT.

And as you know IT pay sucks due to outsourcing to India.

So, more like passion for me. But don't know how long will my passion burn... Hope don't burn out, or kena put off (retrench).

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For me i like media design, and IT stuffs. So my passion will always be there.
Currently in DMIT in NYP (:
But of course, having just that passion is not enough.
My 2nd skill that i am learning is in the sales line. Will have plenty of chance to communicate with random people. I don't go regularly to school's cca. Personal view, i find that it is a waste of time. Having a part time job in the real world gives you the working life experience eariler.
So even when i grad from poly.. I am flexible with any sales job if i can't find my specialised job base on my dioploma.

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Passion first. Because I don't like dragging myself to work. Studied ID, doing ID now.
Pay isn't high but rather do something I enjoy.

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i love money
money's my passion


my lecturer once said, everybody loves money, so everyone will like this course

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Pay first. Money can't buy happiness but I would like to cry on BMW rather than a bicycle.

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I used to work in something i like. Its a passion, an interest and a dream job. But then as you get older, you have more commitment that requires more money. To cut story short, passion can't feed you and can't make you rich.

A job is still a job, passion is leave it to weekend then enjoy.

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Pay is first. Definitely first. If you have a lowly paid job but you are passionate about the job, it's still going to be tough because you will have to constantly worry about your finances.

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passion of course, how many times have u read about how some people eventually give up their high paying jobs and went to do wat they truly desire even if it doesnt pay much.

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passion of course, how many times have u read about how some people eventually give up their high paying jobs and went to do wat they truly desire even if it doesnt pay much.
While there are few cases, there are millions in sg where people work for money. These rare few cases, their financial is quite stable and thus they are able to settle for low paying passion. To many others, they have wife, kids, car, house, and other commitment to look after. Will you go for a low paying passion job if you are the sole bread winner?

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Do what you like.
Initially you do what you like because of interest. Without interest, there will be no drive for study and work.
Later in life, you may have other interest, for example to have children. Then you may want to have a job that bring more income and stable.
Some people have interest to have big car and house, so their interest is to earn more money.

The definition of interests vary among individual.

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Old 17th February 2013, 11:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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of course pay. doing something you like which have low pay , how to survive ? alamak.
unless passion with high pay then go for it

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This reminds me of a story. Do what you like and what makes you really happy.

The Businessman and the Fisherman

The businessman was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The businessman complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied only a little while.

The businessman then asked why he didn't stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs. The businessman then asked, but what do you do with the rest of your time? The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos; I have a full and busy life, seor."

The businessman scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and I could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats; eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman, you would sell directly to the processor and eventually open your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City where you would run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But seor, how long will this all take?" To which the businessman replied, "15-20 years." "But what then, seor?" The businessman laughed and said, "That's the best part! When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You would make millions." "Millions, seor? Then what?" The businessman said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."

The fisherman, still smiling, looked up and said, "Isn't that what I'm doing right now?"

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This reminds me of a story. Do what you like and what makes you really happy.

The Businessman and the Fisherman

The businessman was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The businessman complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied only a little while.

The businessman then asked why he didn't stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family's immediate needs. The businessman then asked, but what do you do with the rest of your time? The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take a siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos; I have a full and busy life, seor."

The businessman scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and I could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats; eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman, you would sell directly to the processor and eventually open your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City where you would run your expanding enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But seor, how long will this all take?" To which the businessman replied, "15-20 years." "But what then, seor?" The businessman laughed and said, "That's the best part! When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You would make millions." "Millions, seor? Then what?" The businessman said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take a siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."

The fisherman, still smiling, looked up and said, "Isn't that what I'm doing right now?"

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As much as that sounds nice, you will rarely see such scenarios nowadays. Money is a basis of nearly everything. Education, House, Food, etc.

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This is just my two cents' worth, but I feel that whether or not you should go for passion or pay depends on what you are aiming for in life. What do you wish to achieve when you look back at your life many years down the road? It might be a little early for TS to think of this, since you just finished poly, but just think about it. You might not get your answer immediately, in fact, it would not be surprising if you still have not found your answer many years later.

True, pay is definitely important to a certain extent. Without a good pay, you would probably not be able to enjoy life as much as you would like to. Without a good pay, you probably would not be able to do everything that you would like to. Without a good pay, you might have to worry about making ends' meets and all the other worries that might come along.

However, simply having a good pay does not make you happy in life. Research shows that beyond a certain salary, you derive no additional happiness from a pay raise. If you can learn to be contented with your pay, and enjoy what you are doing, life would seem much more fulfilling and you would gain more satisfaction from what you are doing. You would be more interested in what you are doing. And that would allow you to look forward to the new day, instead of waking up and dreading having to go work.

It's not that pay is not important. Definitely, you need to at least be paid enough to be able to sufficiently provide for your basic needs and then some more. But as long as you can be contented with it, and not compare yourself with the other (richer) people around you, you would probably not feel the need to keep chasing after more money, and make yourself miserable that you are not able to live life like them.

Anyways, who knows, few years down the road, it might no longer be an issue of passion vs pay. Who decided that it's not possible to have both? Many successful people probably found a way to draw on their passion and make a living out of it.

Well, all the best!

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I didn't really bother about job prospects when I decided my course of study; figured that selling your soul for money wasn't going to bring about a good life :/

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I didn't really bother about job prospects when I decided my course of study; figured that selling your soul for money wasn't going to bring about a good life :/
You make it sound so bad hahaha.....selling your soul for money.

By the way, when are you graduating?

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I'm working at a game company as a game master and translator. At the moment, I have no translating jobs on hand so I'm tasked to play 3 company games at once. Pretty good life it may sound, pretty good life it is. But I do not agree with the company's unethical movement to increase the sales.

We, the GMs, go undercover in the games and are basically given free cash (that the normal players have to pay with their own pocket and it's pretty expensive) to become ridiculously stronger than free players and kill them to piss them off, so they would be propelled to spend money to get stronger.

The shit that game companies do when their games are profit driven.

And I do not like the fact that I'm surrounded by a group of deliquescent, not like I ain't one myself, so I have been considering a career change but before that I need to get my university cert.

So I would say I would choose passion over pay. I'm still young, I still have the time to make foolish mistakes.

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I'm working at a game company as a game master and translator. At the moment, I have no translating jobs on hand so I'm tasked to play 3 company games at once. Pretty good life it may sound, pretty good life it is. But I do not agree with the company's unethical movement to increase the sales.

We, the GMs, go undercover in the games and are basically given free cash (that the normal players have to pay with their own pocket and it's pretty expensive) to become ridiculously stronger than free players and kill them to piss them off, so they would be propelled to spend money to get stronger.

The shit that game companies do when their games are profit driven.

And I do not like the fact that I'm surrounded by a group of deliquescent, not like I ain't one myself, so I have been considering a career change but before that I need to get my university cert.

So I would say I would choose passion over pay. I'm still young, I still have the time to make foolish mistakes.
I really don't understand why people like to game so much. Like it's so unhealthy and they use real cash to pay for 'virtual' things which I find pointless and waste of money. Oh well, it's people like this that fuel the gaming industry, haha.

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Pay first. Money can't buy happiness but I would like to cry on BMW rather than a bicycle.
got money got honey right

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