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Old 15th January 2008, 05:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Phra Ngan - mystery

Dear members,

Can anyone please teach and explain to me more about Phra Ngan (Mountain God), how come we can use it on bad and good things/wishes and it will listen and do what you wish, although your bad karma will be increased if done bad deeds. Please enlighten me with your expansive knowledge. Is it good to invite Phra Ngan to your home and ask for him to help me.

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I got your name wrong ---

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Dear members,

Can anyone please teach and explain to me more about Phra Ngan (Mountain God), how come we can use it on bad and good things/wishes and it will listen and do what you wish, although your bad karma will be increased if done bad deeds. Please enlighten me with your expansive knowledge. Is it good to invite Phra Ngan to your home and ask for him to help me.

Thank You
erm...how come phra ngan is known as mountain god?
pardon my ignorance but i nvr heard of it before....

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I am not too sure myself. That is what i was told by people who have Phra Ngan statue.

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Re: Phra Ngan - mystery

i dun think it is mountain god.

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Once-called Phra Ngang but now called "Phra Chai" Buddha images.They are evolutional form of the decorative Buddha images, stressing on structure more than extravagant details.

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PHRA NGANG
Phra Ngang is a vocab for calling a specific statuette of about 3-4 inches high. It refers to the Ayuthayan statuette that has no robe, sitting on a triangle base. Such the statuette was so called for many decades just because the former-generation people misunderstood that it's not represented Lord Buddha. So, they put Phra Ngang in the trouser's pocket. But it is now clear that they are misunderstood by the characteristics of the statuette. Present-day collectors now call the statuette "Phra Chai" which means Buddha image of Victory.
Phra Ngang is the evolutional form of a decorative Buddha image which depicts the Lord subduing Phya Chompoo(Mara) who was arogant for his great wealth. Once Phya Chompoo met the Lord , he arrogantly paid no respect to him. He thought that no one could compare to him on the wealth. Lord Buddha, a former wealthy prince, used his miraculous power create a mountain of treasures much more than Phya Chompoo' s and transform his body to be the greatest emperor, fully decorated with precious jewels.

Phya Chompoo was so frightend with the Lord's great power and yielded to him. The Lord taught him that being an emperor did not mean far more better than others because that one still face with sufferings and the death, and that a best human being is one who could destroy all evils in his mind and attain Nipphan(Niravan)-no rebirth again. By the Lord's teaching, Phya Chom poo enlightened the truth and requested for an ordination from the Lord, and the Lord gave him a benevolence.

We have found many Ayuthaya period's decorative Buddha images. All of them were created based on the mentioned legend with two characteristics, sitting and standing. The specific name of this Buddha image is "Subduing-Phya-Chompoo Buddha Image". The sitting type has far more evolution. The decorative Buddha image has developed to a plain statuette stressing on its structure more than extravagant details.

Even though, so many people still misunderstands about its characteristics and origin. The naive monks and lay persons commercially produce weird statuettes with red eyes and curved top-stem. They are still called Phra Ngang. All these are imaginary items and not accepted by Thai veteran collectors. And a lot of them are exported!! Do you have one of those items ??

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Thank You very much for your teachings and information. You have increased my knowledge.

Actually yes i seen alot of these statues in this thai shop but he would not sell it as he and other people own them and they use it for self use.

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Originally Posted by statuecollector View Post
Dear members,

Can anyone please teach and explain to me more about Phra Ngan (Mountain God), how come we can use it on bad and good things/wishes and it will listen and do what you wish, although your bad karma will be increased if done bad deeds. Please enlighten me with your expansive knowledge. Is it good to invite Phra Ngan to your home and ask for him to help me.

Thank You
Bro,
to me no point asking about the hisotry of any statues as surely legards will have many verisons. (or else it will not be call as a legard). it will only confuse us and deter our faith...
whats more important is he can jalan and change our current life as desired rite?

Presently many saying about this god, but most said "it's" OR respectedly "HE's" meant/prayed for sexual attraction...and yes! there is a price to pay for abusing PAPA power....err.... i.e to get gals for ONS....

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hi bro ahbeng,abt wanna your phra ngan to help you to do something or asking them to get the gal that you wan,can no problem at all,but you also must know how to pray to them and know abt the phra ngan katha..that is all i know from my friend..

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hi bro ahbeng,abt wanna your phra ngan to help you to do something or asking them to get the gal that you wan,can no problem at all,but you also must know how to pray to them and know abt the phra ngan katha..that is all i know from my friend..
yup yup u are absolutely rite!
getting the kartha is not an issue, since sellers can provide them,
most ppl most afriad is the side effect or bad karma after your "enjoyment"
Any dare devil/s wanna to try can pm me we shall "experiment it together"
i have gather many info but yet to start......
to hell with bad karma.... devoted religious ppl oso will have untimely death, it all fated!
njoy 1st..

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Originally Posted by ahbeng View Post
yup yup u are absolutely rite!
getting the kartha is not an issue, since sellers can provide them,
most ppl most afriad is the side effect or bad karma after your "enjoyment"
Any dare devil/s wanna to try can pm me we shall "experiment it together"
i have gather many info but yet to start......
to hell with bad karma.... devoted religious ppl oso will have untimely death, it all fated!
njoy 1st..
are u sure getting the gatha not an issue?

how sure are u that the gatha will work?

do u know that in this world there is only 1 gatha that will make phr ngan work?

and do u know that this gatha is divided into 3 parts?


if u know the answers to the above 4 questions,let me know the answer if not dun come and mislead pple or ask pple to try something which u dun even know whats gonna happen at the end of the day.

u wanna suffer in hell suffer alone,dun drag innocent pple in.


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are u sure getting the gatha not an issue?

how sure are u that the gatha will work?

do u know that in this world there is only 1 gatha that will make phr ngan work?

and do u know that this gatha is divided into 3 parts?


if u know the answers to the above 4 questions,let me know the answer if not dun come and mislead pple or ask pple to try something which u dun even know whats gonna happen at the end of the day.

u wanna suffer in hell suffer alone,dun drag innocent pple in.
Yo bro,
thanks for your comment
relex man...need not get so work up....
1).if the kartha won't work how will i go to hell??
2.) base on wat ground you say that there is only 1 kartha that works??
the world is so big noe....different lp/ac who made phra ngan give diff kartha....
do you take yourself as more knowledgeable then those lp/ac who have been practising for more then half a century??
3.) each to his own lar bro....i can't gun point anyone rite?? juz that nver try it b4, wanted to explore the mysteries....those big times sinners, i.e those operation gambling casino who coz breaking up of families, suicide, those opening pros den coz the widespread of HIV.....corruption officals who bring down the whole country....compare to us who juz wanna to have little fun.... itz peanuts against gaint!........

Not meant for those weak hearted....

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3.) each to his own lar bro....i can't gun point anyone rite?? juz that nver try it b4, wanted to explore the mysteries....those big times sinners, i.e those operation gambling casino who coz breaking up of families, suicide, those opening pros den coz the widespread of HIV.....corruption officals who bring down the whole country....compare to us who juz wanna to have little fun.... itz peanuts against gaint!........:

i love this answer... they are the big time sinner.... and the peanut againts giant phrase is the best of all...

no offend... peace

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i love this answer... they are the big time sinner.... and the peanut againts giant phrase is the best of all...

no offend... peace

yup yup life's short, play hard!
scare here scare there, dare not try anything, live until 1000years old oso no use....
as long as dun misbehave, kana A.I.D.S and die a shameful death can liao....

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Yes, sinners are those who break up people's family, influence people to wrong paths, killers and so on. They are REALLY a sinner. But if you are saying that sinners are those that dont believe in God, i feel its no big deal. Its still up to indivisual to believe or not. Does that mean im a sinner just because i dont believe in God. Does that mean that those who open casinos and believe in God are not sinners? If God is unfair just like i thought, then it makes no difference in God and human.

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Yes, sinners are those who break up people's family, influence people to wrong paths, killers and so on. They are REALLY a sinner. But if you are saying that sinners are those that dont believe in God, i feel its no big deal. Its still up to indivisual to believe or not. Does that mean im a sinner just because i dont believe in God. Does that mean that those who open casinos and believe in God are not sinners? If God is unfair just like i thought, then it makes no difference in God and human.
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i think I noe which religion you are refering to.
Yes, i do agree with you that such a religion has no logic at all.
at first they scare ppl by saying that all are sinners, then they provide a path for salvation as in whosoever wh believe i him should be perish but have everlasting life, illregardless what they have done in their current life.
by this theory , it can attract many ppl to their religion with the side effect of the believers can do whatever they like without the fear of being condemed to hell.

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hi everyone. Would like to know if the kind experienced devotees of phra Ngan can help me determine if this is the correct kartha to chant-- Plak Ngan Yee Ka Soo Soo Ma Lee Ma Lai Plak Ngan.... I don't want to make Phra Ngan unhappy...

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hi everyone. Would like to know if the kind experienced devotees of phra Ngan can help me determine if this is the correct kartha to chant-- Plak Ngan Yee Ka Soo Soo Ma Lee Ma Lai Plak Ngan.... I don't want to make Phra Ngan unhappy...

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it is incomplete and the pronounciation is wrong

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hi Storm. Thanks for your kind reply. Yes, it is incomplete...I was told that the rest of the katha is a "love" spell which i have no intention of chanting. Is that correct or am I mistaken? Also, if you dont mind correcting me, how is the katha's spelling wrong? Should I chant it as -- Prag Ngan Yee Ka Soo Soo Ma Kee Ma Lai Prag Ngan..? Really appreciate your help.

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hi Storm. Thanks for your kind reply. Yes, it is incomplete...I was told that the rest of the katha is a "love" spell which i have no intention of chanting. Is that correct or am I mistaken? Also, if you dont mind correcting me, how is the katha's spelling wrong? Should I chant it as -- Prag Ngan Yee Ka Soo Soo Ma Kee Ma Lai Prag Ngan..? Really appreciate your help.
sorry all i can let u know is it is incomplete and wrong pronounciation

am bounded by certain rules hope u understand

just to correct u on wat u have posted....if u know it is incomplete why do u still wanna chant it?

its just like in english for example the following sentence

"i had a great day today reason being i was having my off day and i get to do things which i like to do"

does it make sense to you if i were to read it in an in complete way like

"i had today was off do like do"

so if u chant an incomplete gatha,how do u expect the deva to understand what u are talking about?

shortcuts in gathas is not so easy as what a lot of pple think
u need to understand fully what it means and know how to draw the essence out of it

and basically,from the way i see it,i dun know what was to be "filled in the blanks" by the gatha u posted and i dont know if the person who gave u this know the full version or whatsoever,so i cant really tell u much


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