Raising Ghost Child - Page 107

Storm · 10-02-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shu11

Hi, i will be going thailand in next 2weeks. Going to north pattaya. Any temple there so that i can bought a little ghost there. I want to change my luck. Been bad luck no choice .Ｉrather risk than never tried. Hey everybody have to die once so why not try. I don't care what it takes but what i care is the fruit which i would gain at the end.

GHOSTS CANNOT BE BOUGHT ESPECIALLY IN TEMPLES...

please get your facts right...

thank you

**Kumantong** · 10-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm

GHOSTS CANNOT BE BOUGHT ESPECIALLY IN TEMPLES...

please get your facts right...

thank you

Luang Phor Yem, Wat Sam Ngan and Luang Phor Dum, Wat Santitiam is famous for making Kumantongs. If not get from temple, get from where???

**Brett** · 10-02-2009, 11:41 AM

LP Poon Wat Pailom, LP Tim Wat Prakeow, AC Tuksut just to name a few more = ) All are temples all have GumanTong for rent.

Storm · 10-02-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kumantong

Luang Phor Yem, Wat Sam Ngan and Luang Phor Dum, Wat Santitiam is famous for making Kumantongs. If not get from temple, get from where???

i believe kumantongs are known as deities and not ghosts.

**Zhouyu** · 10-02-2009, 01:46 PM

The topic title is wrong in the very beginning. Right? Or ghost child is being refer to the evil kind?

**FAJ** · 10-02-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shu11

Hi, i will be going thailand in next 2weeks. Going to north pattaya. Any temple there so that i can bought a little ghost there. I want to change my luck. Been bad luck no choice .Ｉrather risk than never tried. Hey everybody have to die once so why not try. I don't care what it takes but what i care is the fruit which i would gain at the end.

Yeah, there are many consume and sinning temples. Pattaya is exactly where you have to go for lots of spirits and to get a ghost, even if theres lots of flesh on it.

Pattaya may be a spot in Thailand, but well ... then ....

and with your have to die anyway feeling - stay out of trouble there
or you might get what you wish for.

faj

Storm · 11-02-2009, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhouyu

The topic title is wrong in the very beginning. Right? Or ghost child is being refer to the evil kind?

i believe if you ahd read the posting from the 1st page on wards it was corrected that we are talking about KMT here which is different from ghost child and with the person that i posed the question to,its kinda obvious we are referring to kmt not ghost child

**PRAYzBOY** · 11-02-2009, 10:28 AM

Why still are many hard headed ppl who dun know how to differenciate what is chost child and what is kumanthong even there many time repeat and repeat to explain in this treat.
Are this ppl dun 12 read the whole treat b4 start an post or forgetful?

**FAJ** · 11-02-2009, 06:29 PM

HA HA HA, yes and I exhaust my patience too - but dont forget the master had a long breath and the more you are awake the more it is urgently neccesary

Another sad thing:
- a couple of weeks ago there was somebody here, very dishearted praying to wonderful looking Guman Thong of LP Yaem.
I asked for some pictures and he send me very beautiful pictures about incredible GMT Bucha of LP Yaem.

My first thought - i know that batch - but although very beautiful, ..... tooo beautiful and some mistakes.
I told the guy that I think they are fake, but as I don't like to hurt people, and am maybe wrong - I took time to reconfirm with the Wat.

The result came ---- they are fake.

Today I got the message from LP Yaem himself and he was talking seriously to me.
"They are all fake at this webpage, and the creators surely go to hell."

I really would like to puplic the internet adress - but yet it is against the rules

Dont be sure if you have a thai dealer that you get real amulet.

NO WONDER PEOPLE THINKG GUMAN of LP Yaem are not good - if they got a fake.

I really think that 8 out of 10 out there are fake, even if they don't look like that

-- Sad Sad

A good hint is, if you think ' Oh how cute ....' should be a warning. -

Better go with a barby doll, then

faj

**Jinxmy** · 11-02-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FAJ

HA HA HA, yes and I exhaust my patience too - but dont forget the master had a long breath and the more you are awake the more it is urgently neccesary

Another sad thing:
- a couple of weeks ago there was somebody here, very dishearted praying to wonderful looking Guman Thong of LP Yaem.
I asked for some pictures and he send me very beautiful pictures about incredible GMT Bucha of LP Yaem.

My first thought - i know that batch - but although very beautiful, ..... tooo beautiful and some mistakes.
I told the guy that I think they are fake, but as I don't like to hurt people, and am maybe wrong - I took time to reconfirm with the Wat.

The result came ---- they are fake.

Today I got the message from LP Yaem himself and he was talking seriously to me.
"They are all fake at this webpage, and the creators surely go to hell."

I really would like to puplic the internet adress - but yet it is against the rules

Dont be sure if you have a thai dealer that you get real amulet.

NO WONDER PEOPLE THINKG GUMAN of LP Yaem are not good - if they got a fake.

I really think that 8 out of 10 out there are fake, even if they don't look like that

-- Sad Sad

A good hint is, if you think ' Oh how cute ....' should be a warning. -

Better go with a barby doll, then

faj

I really like tht last few words.... barbie doll....LOL...
BTW Bro Faj .... any recomend temple in pattaya?

**ritual-** · 11-02-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by moody moo

I use to keep few Kumantong during my youngest days. Here some of my knowing and hope it will help you.

Age around 8mth to 7 yrs old. I actually “invited” them from Thailand temple and some given to me by monks.

How they made?

Monks or those evil priests will dig out the grave of the babies and either using they bones or hairs (sometime powder from the tombstone) to curve into amulets (babies) forms. For those unborn (meaning die inside the mother wombs) to about the age of one the amulets figure will be like a baby climbing on the floor sucking pacifiers (very cute), those age about 2 to 8 yrs old, the figuring is a stand up or sitting baby figure and some age about 6 – 8 you can see them carry a weapons like arrow and bow.

The evil type (which mean they can’t rest in peace) the monk will blindfold them in red cloth, these sorts will take years to wash away they hater and sin by chanting daily. And never let then taste blood or it will be very difficult to tame them.

Feeding – There are a few way to feed Kumantong.
a) Sweet (Change once the sweet turn soft)
b) Chocolates (Same as above)
c) Fresh milk (which you need to change daily)
d) Plain rice (No much people use this)
e) Hard boil egg, peel off the shell (Change it once the egg turn black)
b) Blood of the owner, everyday per drop (Mainly use for those Kumantong dead of unnatural dead. Like adoption, kill by parent once born etc. Because of “hate” the become unrest soul and unlikely to be reborn again unless someone do offering of chatting by high monks to rest they soul. These are more “evil” type of feeding process, but also most effecting type, they will follow the owner heart, if the owner is “evil” the Kumantong will become like oneself, if the owner heart if “kind” the Kumantong will be good and wait for his/her change to be reborn.

How to keep?

a) You must treat them like your own kids, they got feeling too and you need to teach them what right what wrong.
b) If you have evil though, they will sense it and follow your mindset. They will help you to do evil deeds, but remembered this that you will have to pay back so how.
c) If you have kind though, they will also behave like you, but they will also help you in the way that you will live a smooth life. They will help you to clear any obstruction in your path.
d) They can be naughty sometime just like kids, so you as the daddy or mummy must punish them according same goes if they been a good boy you must awards them like buying new toys, clothing, sweet etc.

How do I get rid of them?

a) Is not easy of get rid of them like items you just throw down to the bin chute.
b) You cannot just throw them under a tree or far away, because they like dog, no matter how far you throw them, they will “stiff” they way back to you and disturb you.
c) If you really wanted to disposal them, you must bring them to a temple (For me I bring them back to Thai Temple at Simpang Bedok), together you must bring new clothing, plenty of sweets, toys etc and go to find the monk “on duty” that day and tell them that you don’t want to keep anymore. They will help you to chat and place them on the offering tables (Which many others Kumantongs “friends” sitting there), then you place your offering to all the others Kumantongs which been there before yours and tell them to take care of yours Kumantongs and “help” them not to bully them. Is a sort of bribing to them?

I get rid of mine because they are damn naughty and hard to tame, very playful. But they do help me in many ways like money and relationship which I rather not go into details. :biggrin4:

Dude your story is the same but it is a malay ghost called "toyol" means ghost child.
It actually the same but this "toyol" drink the blood of the owner's after the ghost child fulfilled the owner's wish like steals money at people house.

**Jinxmy** · 11-02-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ritual-

Dude your story is the same but it is a malay ghost called "toyol" means ghost child.
It actually the same but this "toyol" drink the blood of the owner's after the ghost child fulfilled the owner's wish like steals money at people house.

Eh bro if i'm not mistaken even Guman is stronger than toyol.
I heard from my malay fren says... toyol is use only in small small assignment.
Correct me if i'm wrong..

**FAJ** · 11-02-2009, 09:11 PM

As you see in my post - I hate pattaya, certainly
But if you a good boy and don't need mummies hand to guide you - go to Rayong and visit LP Sakorn.
Thats a great monk !! Wat Nong Krab --- and as you are there go to Wat Lahanrai and pay respect to his teacher LP Tim.

Dont forget: no lady, no beer bar or other stuffs at least 2-3 days before going to the Wat.
If not you won't have good experience, even not seeing the master.

faj

,,

As it tickles in my fingers, pictures of the fakers might be allowed to post and so here I will do .
Darn, the Admin did disable the pic function.

there is really something bad on that front ... I kicked loose a little scandal in Thailand.
Thanks to brother broken heart.

faj

**PRAYzBOY** · 12-02-2009, 01:34 AM

Ac FAJ can Lp Cheam of Wat Ta Ei kmt into the famous made?
I dun hav 1 but after so many years this Wat hav made several famous batch till today.
Lp Chom Wat ??? also famous making KMT since 253X right?
I need ur help to clear this tq

**Jinxmy** · 12-02-2009, 11:21 AM

Eh Bro... mind teaching me how to understand the term year 2+++ and modern year count 2009?
Sometimes i really blur blur oh....

**FAJ** · 12-02-2009, 02:55 PM

Huh, ...
there is the problems with the writing I guess.
Wat Ta Eii - this is LP Chuen right ?!
He passed away already and yes he did some amazing KP.
Whole Buriram is known for partner and love magic - and not without reason I might add.

Dont forget if you write LP this or that, that the names are not unique and that there are quite a lot of
LP with the same name - which is confusing to me.

Anyway - now listen up guys, I still can't post the pictures and so I just telling the story.

Imagine you get a Guman thong and it looks nearly original 99% but it isn't.
I had that case of that mentioned poster who showed me the pics. Normally I am easily seeing faked, but this case gave me a headache as they looked original but somehow I knew they weren't.

As I hate to hurt people and their possessions, esp. once it comes to Guman, but still am a 'fighter' for real amulet I did not let go easy, which caused a little (more or less - things are on the move) scandal.

As I have seen that on one of the pictures is a beer box (chang beer) and the wall of a Wat in the background (which might be the reason for some greenies to guess, yeahh that real Guman) I asked fellow monks and friend - finally LP Yaem himself.

It came out that an ex producure of the statues did all the fakes for himself - knowing how the mass is to be done.
Lp Yaem said they will go to hell - hey and this is not funny in hearing this.

But how stupid and pride people can be - therefor pride was the sign the faker left and thanks to this the little spots you can see thats a fake.

So for everybody who got the amzing true looking Buchas
YOU GOT NO REAL GMT
and I have seen quite a lot of SG Posters but forgot the names of them.

Therefor everybody who showed me pics about the darkbroun skin batch of LP Yaem has a fake - certainly.

faj

FAJ added 9 Minutes and 5 Seconds later...

Why nobody is looking for amulets of e.g. LP Noy - they are ugly yessss but I swear you I can see the spirits walking around doing their job.

faj

**Tinsel** · 12-02-2009, 04:51 PM

Omg....im really scared after reading all this. Seriously i have goosebumps like all over! Dont you feel scared when you have some unseen spirit floating around in your house?

**FAJ** · 12-02-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinsel

Omg....im really scared after reading all this. Seriously i have goosebumps like all over! Dont you feel scared when you have some unseen spirit floating around in your house?

Ok, I am writing you seriously about that.
As long you are telling me you are scared (so easily) its showing me that you are doing no sitting meditation for developing a little samadhi.
Once you do so you develop those little 'organs' which makes you able to see spirits.

Once you (hopefully) did the right training in sitting AND of moral behaviour in daily life, you are developed in a way that once you see those sensations of walking spirits, you are in another state of self.

This self is higher developed, and what would scare you sh@less in normal life conscious doesn't scare you anymore. It seems to be normal.
In this state its further possible to see how strong the spirits and therefor the amulets are.

Many have nothing - some have spirit but it is so fragile like a soap bubble.
Some are friendly clean spirit, some angry and aggressive.

And finally you have some who are so clear and clean that you are not able to take it and it seems to be aggressive to us.

I am not enlightened but surely at a state to write such things. Everybody can reach such a state with a little work, discipline and meditation.

faj

Ps just to add: because I have heard a lesson of the Dalai Lama.
His 'Holiness' is showing clearly that he is as far away of true Buddhism as the Vatican of Christ. Sad, sad ...

**ritual-** · 12-02-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxmy

Eh bro if i'm not mistaken even Guman is stronger than toyol.
I heard from my malay fren says... toyol is use only in small small assignment.
Correct me if i'm wrong..

guman?..never heard of it man

ritual- added 4 Minutes and 37 Seconds later...

faj...where is pattaya?

Storm · 12-02-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxmy

Eh Bro... mind teaching me how to understand the term year 2+++ and modern year count 2009?
Sometimes i really blur blur oh....

the magic number is 543 you just need to add 543 to the current gregorian calendar (dont know if its the right term for the calendar we are using now)that we are using you will have the year in the buddhist calendar

meaning in year 2009 + 543 =2552 buddhist year

how it came about u can actually get a search done on it i cant give an exact explanation cos i read a few versions so cant be sure.
sorry if i cant help you on how it came about