Raising Ghost Child - Page 5

**faith14** · 14-06-2007, 12:48 AM

sound inhygenic and disgusting =X

Storm · 14-06-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenifur

Is it true that you can also use your own dead baby either due to miscarriage or abortion to make into "kumantong"? My fren heard monk in Thailand can do this but dam ex.

She lost her baby 1 yr ago & was thinking of doing but am hesitating due to the cost. Can you still do it after such a long period of time & she was only 2 mths plus pregnant when she had e miscarriage?

accordingly after a baby is aborted or dead the soul will follow the mum,if they can get a piece of the dead body,can use it to make kmt,if not can just get an empty amulet or statue and get the master to ask the spirit of the kid to reside in the amulet or statue,so that they spirit can have a perm place to cultivate and reincarnate earlier.and its not costly at all,depending on who does it for you.....

i ever had one of those made cos my wife due to physical problems cannot carry the baby to full term,we had to abort the kid,but now the kid is somebody's real child now

Storm · 14-06-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by faith14

sound inhygenic and disgusting =X

it is not only unhygenic and disgusting,it is also preposterous( i dont know if the speeling is right for this word,too lazy to check dictionary ),imagine DEFACING/DISHONOURING a buddha this way....in hokkien a term says it all "buay suay pun keh"

Storm · 14-06-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bernut

i believe they bring luck.. by stealing money from other ppl..

this is toyol,the evil malay version u re talking about,
child spirits can be divided into 3 main types

kmt...thai version norally worshipped as deities,
ghost kid.....chinese version,normally used in maoshan rituals where they feed blood,
toyol...malay version,usually used to steal money from other pple

**bernut** · 14-06-2007, 01:18 AM

tat means ghost kid is deadly too?

Storm · 14-06-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bernut

tat means ghost kid is deadly too?

as long as u deal with blood and egg its a spirit not a deity yet so the danger is there...tats all i can reveal

**faith14** · 14-06-2007, 01:31 AM

oh.. u used the word, reveal.. hmm.. means u have not tell us all the things that r not known to some ppl?

Storm · 14-06-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by faith14

oh.. u used the word, reveal.. hmm.. means u have not tell us all the things that r not known to some ppl?

a lot of pple in this world have a lot of misconception on certain things as well as common misled beliefs about certain things,they just like to hear what they wanna hear,so no point revealing sso much and get hounded/grilled by pple...already i am starting to kena the bombs when someone ask me about something....dont wanna be labelled as the spiritual master or anything in forums,(u see my avatar?i am just a bowling freak)just wanna enjoy my stay and try to pass the right info to peeps in here.....anything that has got to do with religion practise must be taken into careful consideration before i disclose any info,to promote religious harmony is more important as emphasised by our govt.

**bernut** · 14-06-2007, 01:49 AM

haha.. kana bomb ? dn care them lor. if u know u aint wrong.. most ppl dn feel anithing wrong.. then there is no problem !

Storm · 14-06-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bernut

haha.. kana bomb ? dn care them lor. if u know u aint wrong.. most ppl dn feel anithing wrong.. then there is no problem !

mai lah....
later i gotta come in eberlyday to answer questions....bery sian onez leh

**scorpi0x** · 14-06-2007, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm_Pyro

mai lah....
later i gotta come in eberlyday to answer questions....bery sian onez leh

lol PT job.. spiritual education leader... pay u SGC$

anyway... u said kmt consider low level deity.. den deity still need reborn? so does wranger's definition of helping them gain merit still apply? :handsup: :confused2:

Storm · 14-06-2007, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scorpi0x

lol PT job.. spiritual education leader... pay u SGC$

anyway... u said kmt consider low level deity.. den deity still need reborn? so does wranger's definition of helping them gain merit still apply? :handsup: :confused2:

yes of cos,the merit thing still apply the ultimate aim of cultivation is to get out from the cycle of karma..also thats where u get the6 diff realms in buddhism...thats when u attain buddhahood....(these i shallnot go into detail cos i am not an expert yet and also there are a lot of free distributions books u can get and refer to)

thats another reason why i dont wanna answer such questions cos my understanding of things may be diff from other peeps,just like a glass half filled with water,u say its half filled or half empty?get wat i mean?

**bernut** · 14-06-2007, 02:58 AM

kmt is still kmt. they still nid to be reborn no matter wad

**WetWet** · 14-06-2007, 03:11 AM

:biggrin4: aiya, those are not ghost child lar. You ppl mix-up liow lar. Want to see Ghost sibo ?

Only ppl har, never seen ghost before 1 har. even ghost standing beside them still they think is another person.

till they see it eyes. then still they blur blur though is just another people with wierd charactor.

In fact those are what u guys so call ghost lar.

like that also want to debate

hahhaa

Storm · 14-06-2007, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WetWet

:biggrin4: aiya, those are not ghost child lar. You ppl mix-up liow lar. Want to see Ghost sibo ?

Only ppl har, never seen ghost before 1 har. even ghost standing beside them still they think is another person.

till they see it eyes. then still they blur blur though is just another people with wierd charactor.

In fact those are what u guys so call ghost lar.

like that also want to debate

hahhaa

i like your definition,at least there are certain truths in it...kekeke

**bernut** · 15-06-2007, 12:05 AM

my company keep sweets in the cashier drawer as they believe it will bring luck althou they deny keeping 1

**Jenifur** · 15-06-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm_Pyro

accordingly after a baby is aborted or dead the soul will follow the mum,if they can get a piece of the dead body,can use it to make kmt,if not can just get an empty amulet or statue and get the master to ask the spirit of the kid to reside in the amulet or statue,so that they spirit can have a perm place to cultivate and reincarnate earlier.and its not costly at all,depending on who does it for you.....

i ever had one of those made cos my wife due to physical problems cannot carry the baby to full term,we had to abort the kid,but now the kid is somebody's real child now

Oh.. you mean even without anything from the dead body also can make?!! We thought the person who told my friend this was lied to her.

Can you share more like how you go about doing this & how you know the kid is somebody's real child now?

**moody moo** · 15-06-2007, 09:37 PM

More Picture of KMT for better understanding :rock:

This is an Antique KMT. which more common seen around.

Corpse Blood KMT. This KMT is soak in a bottle of Real Corpse Blood, the blood is from dead babies.

Corpse Oil KMT. This KMT is soak in a bottle of Corpse Oil, the oil is draw from the dead babies.

Corpse Soil KMT. This is make from the soil which use to buries dead babies.

Golden KMT.

Ho Payong KMT. This are make of string and make into a figuring by monks. Do u think it look like those Voodoo dolls which many kids hang on they sch bags?

Sammatee KMT.

Skull KMT. Make from the dead babies bones and cruve the bone into KMT figures.

Wealth enhancing KMT.

**bernut** · 15-06-2007, 11:49 PM

wealth enhancing.. looks interesting

**SledgeHammer** · 16-06-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SgUncle

I used to keep one 'ghost' child in one of my spare room many years ago when my son was about 1 years old. Strange things happened to us.......Let me relate the stories......

I set up a altar specially for the 'ghost' child or Kumantong. I had sweets, milk and toys as offerings. Sometimes at night while we were sleeping, I would be woken up by some strange noises in that room. It seems like someone 'playing' inside. I was too scare to go and investigate........when I was watching channel 5 and needs to get a drink at the kitchen, by the time I am back the channel has jumped to another channel. This happened many times! Sometimes my baby will cry for no apparent reasons at night. We have a babysitter next door and everyday will bring our baby over before going to work. My babysitter told me few times that she saw small pinch marks on my baby's legs and arms. That freaks me out coz I realized that it could be the work of this 'ghost' child. Eventually I disposed it after some advice from friends. Never will I touch this again........

so did u in anyway get any benefits from keeping a ghost child?