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Old 11-01-2008, 11:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toilet Roll Retirement means death, don't stop working: MM Lee

Retirement means death, don't stop working: MM Lee
By Clarissa Oon



'With nothing to do, no purpose in life, you'll just degrade, go to seed,' said Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew who turns 85 this year. -- PHOTO: STRAITS TIMES.COM

A SEDENTARY retirement will sound the death knell for anyone, said Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, who is determined to keep active for as long as he can.

'With nothing to do, no purpose in life, you'll just degrade, go to seed,' he said on Friday at a dialogue session at which he shared his experiences of active ageing with participants at the Silver Industry Conference and Exhibition (Sicex), held at Suntec Convention Centre.

The four-day conference, which ends on Sundaym explores ways to grow the seniors' market in Singapore and the region.

Mr Lee said that an active life, regular exercise and frequent travel were his secrets to ageing gracefully.

'I would not be able to speak to you in this way if I had not led a very active life, connected with many people throughout the world and tried to interpret it to make sense for Singapore,' said the elder statesman, who turns 85 this year.

'I'm determined that I will not, as long as I can, have my horizons slowed on me.'

He added: 'We got to educate those about to retire: Don't retire, work. Retirement means death.'

And he meant every word of it.

He said those who believed they could stop work at 55 to drink wine and play golf were 'done in'.

'Research has shown that those who lead a sedentary life tend to die quickly,' said MM Lee, who started jogging regularly in his 50s and now also keeps fit by swimming and cycling.

He maintains a packed schedule of international travel, including at least one official trip a year to regional powerhouses China and India.

The biggest punishment a man can receive, he said, is 'total isolation', which he defined as 'if you're not interested in the world and if the world is not interested in you'.

'If the mindset is that I'll reach retirement at age 62, I'm old, I can't work anymore, I don't have to work, I just sit back, now is the time I enjoy life, I think you're making the biggest mistake of your life,' he said.

'After one month...two months, even if you go travelling with nothing to do, with no purpose in life, you would get degraded, you go to seed. The human being needs a challenge.'

MM Lee also defended the Central Provident Fund scheme and argued against pensions for the elderly, which have to be supported by tax revenues.

The CPF scheme, he said, helps Singapore to remain competitive, as it aims for 'minimum tax rates and maximum self-sufficiency'.

'This way you are not passing the burden (of caring for the elderly) to the next generation,' he added.


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Old 12-01-2008, 01:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Work till death.

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yea dont stop working take all ur savings with u when u die , thats money well spent

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Default Re: Retirement means death, don't stop working: MM Lee

Okie. Senior Lee is clever. So now citizens got nth to say about "work until death" coz he admit govt do want citizens to work until death.

But I don't like the way he delivered the msg.
Everyone has the right to lead the kind of life he wants. Even if they end up dying faster than anyone else.

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That's what I like about Singapore government. It is very effective and its people will listen and work.

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Hmm... work till old and work till death...

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Old 15-01-2008, 12:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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sg really like a big farmhse and the pple r like cattles.......

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well, not many people are as fortunate as him, can travel so often!

if i could, i also want to let my parents travel.. but truth is, life is unfair..

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work till death but the pay also drop till death lei.. not like him de

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Default Re: Retirement means death, don't stop working: MM Lee

I worry not for the old man who's sprouting senile ideas.

I worry for the nation that this senile disease would become inheritary and our future leaders will all have this mindset.

But the next generation of Singaporeans are not stupid. If our future leaders have this mentality that we are all minions, they will be in for a shock.

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My grandma is 67 years old this year

She still working.

It's not like she need to earn money for a living

I think she has the same sentiment as MM Lee ._.

she's healthy and still swimming every week ._.

;_; i don't even know how to swim ):

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Default Re: Retirement means death, don't stop working: MM Lee

/jealous of those countries that can have a nice retirement at a old age.
maybe like 55?
we le. work till death oso maybe not enuff money.
so sad.

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Toilet Roll Seniors agree with MM on staying active

Seniors agree with MM on staying active
But some say work is not the only way to do so, and it can be hard to find jobs
By Clarissa Oon & Keith Lin


MANY seniors agree with Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew's recent comments about the importance of remaining active and not retiring.

Staying engaged with society is important, these older Singaporeans said. But some questioned if work is the only way to keep active, as Mr Lee suggested at a dialogue last Friday.

Others argued that government agencies and employers could make it easier for elderly Singaporeans to find consultancy or part-time jobs so they can continue working into their twilight years.

Speaking at a conference on the burgeoning silver industry here, Mr Lee shared how being a globally engaged statesman had given him the necessary mental stimuli to take him into his 85th year.

His comment that able-bodied seniors should continue working as 'retirement means death' sparked impassioned debate online over its feasibility for the average Singaporean.

Most of the eight seniors interviewed by The Straits Times said they hope to carry on with a job they enjoy in their old age.

'Some people may think working beyond retirement age is very stressful, but there are many different forms of work out there,' said Mr Cheok Chin Yam, 49, who runs his own marine equipment company.

'I don't think I will continue to work at my current pace when I'm in my 60s. The most important thing is to keep myself mentally challenged.'

Like MM Lee, Mrs Karen Chee, 46, believes only work can challenge and fulfil her in her golden years. A former assistant director at a medical institute, she is now studying for her masters in business administration.

'Some people can retire and still be very active in a different way, such as by taking up hobbies or doing community work. But personally, only work can give me that kind of motivation,' she said.

But retired school principal Edward Tan, 62, disagreed that work is king.

'Obviously MM enjoys his work, so what he says is true for him, but not necessarily true for everyone else,' said Mr Tan, who has done community work and travelled since he retired in 2001.

'I learnt it's important not to be too attached to things like your job and the influence you once held, and to accept that each passing phase of my life is a new chapter.'

One netizen suggested working after retirement 'is not a matter of choice' but of whether 'there's anyone out there willing to even hire a mature worker'.

Another thought MM Lee's remarks will encourage children of the elderly not to give them financial support on the grounds that they are able to continue working.

But in general, active-ageing advocates and community workers contacted are pleased with MM Lee's strong message in favour of living purposefully into one's old age.

'There are many examples of retirees who have not planned their retirement. They sleep late into the morning and then begin not to groom themselves, eventually losing interest in what is happening outside, followed by dementia,' said Mr Gerard Ee, chairman of the Council for Third Age, which champions active ageing.

Do not let work completely overshadow your life, advised Dr Kanwaljit Soin, who runs a non-profit organisation for older women to age successfully.

'The thing to do is have a second string to the bow. One must always make provisions so, if for some reason you cannot work, you find other things to occupy yourself,' she said.

To allow more seniors to continue in the workforce, employers should base their hiring not on age but on 'robust factors such as skills, productivity and performance', said Mr Gan Kim Yong, Minister of State for Education & Manpower and chairman of the committee drawing up guidelines on the re-employment law.

He also encouraged employers to discuss with their older employees what jobs are suitable and available for them, as well as adopt flexible work arrangements for this group.

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there no more retirement life in sg now unless u r super rich.....

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LOL @ huaikong's first response.
my grandmother is still working too.. sad huh. study and then work till you die.

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