[maverick1]

We all know that giving ranks based on post count is not the best way to recognize good members in SGC. While I recognize that it is a way of recognizing senior members here, i would like to place less emphasis on post count than on quality of posts.

Thus, I am contemplating tagging the ranks, bronze, gold, etc. to reputation instead of post counts. However, i am not completely eliminating post count recognition. There cld be a set of fixed user titles (which is currently free for all to put what you want - below your nicks) that will be assigned to members based on post count. Thru that, members will recognize your seniority and post count.

i understand that many of you will feel like you are being 'demoted' since rep system is quite new, but members will still see your seniority by your assigned user titles. and i hope that everyone will look at the long term benefit of recognising members based on the quality of their posts. members will be more encouraged to give quality comments and help and less spamming.

Thus, i wld like to seek your opinions on this move and whether you agree that the 'bronze', 'silver', 'gold', etc status shld be tagged to reputation rather than post count?

if no, pls explain why.

[enirtep]

im neutral... but leaning more towards the no side, no, it shouldnt be based on reputation. how good is a good quality post? isnt that a lil bit subjective? furthermore, the intriguing part about forum is the more you post, the higher up you go. if being active leads me to nowhere, then theres really no point for me to stay on any longer. correct?.. but actually.. i dont really care la.. hahaha..

[DestinyAthrun]

+i am neutral too

But based on the members who have been here a very long time, they might not like this new change.
I would suggest the title stays as it is but giving in a new fix title to those who have reps and status.

This would create no complain and everyone would be very happy, and work to get rep titles ontop of their gold, silver, bronze titles.

cheers,

[BasTaI2d]

I'm neutral to this matter too. I feel that many forums ranking are through post counts, maybe for us, we can be a little unique here , instead of post counts, we can have another system to rank the members.


And my concern is the same as admin's, some members will feel demoted, because some members who have joined SGC for more than a year probably don't login too often to contribute post. As a result, they will not get recognision and increase reputation.


But on and all, I am neutral to this change and I think it is good in a way too.

[Revy]

i'm new, but i hope u dont mind i share my cents worth.

ranking forummers based on reputation count IMHO wont be viable, simply because i believe most people hardly remember to click on that tiny button at the bottom to reward someone for a good post! subjectivity of how good a post is is something that can be absorbed by the system, in very much the same way of how a huge group of people with differing opinions can sort of balance out the differences statistically.

i feel that an alternate method, rank aside, or perhaps a separate form of ranking should be created in order not just for the admins to reward members based on reputation count, but also for admins and mods to reward them if they feel they deserve them.

then again, we have to consider about the deficiencies with the current rep situation. how do we find a way to incentivise forummers to click on that button to reward others with a good post? right now we can only depend on the goodness of man.. but im doubtful about the reliability of that alone. hehe

[Apricot]

If one's reputation is based on post counts, one might spam alot at teh welcome section jsut to have that reputation.

[May_Tay]

Originally Posted by Apricot

If one's reputation is based on post counts, one might spam alot at teh welcome section jsut to have that reputation.

agree

[debbielmy]

Originally Posted by enirtep

im neutral... but leaning more towards the no side, no, it shouldnt be based on reputation. how good is a good quality post? isnt that a lil bit subjective? furthermore, the intriguing part about forum is the more you post, the higher up you go. if being active leads me to nowhere, then theres really no point for me to stay on any longer. correct?.. but actually.. i dont really care la.. hahaha..

same sentiments >.<

neutral for me

=]

[a|ex]

let admin decide wats the best

[jaefan]

I voted no.but now..im kind of neutral after reading the reasons ppl posted.

Up to the mods ba.^^

[neng83]

im neutral too~ im here not for ranking~ =)
but dont say up to the admin lar~ cos he was asking for opinion~
mean he cant decide also~
so vote to help~

[Stanstan]

imho,

For reputation - its better not to depend on it for the bronze,silver,gold member system. As it might incur abuse ( u know what i mean ), and like what previous member Revy had said ,"ppl might not notice the small little button to give u the reputation" . Furthermore, if you will to try out a new system, isnt it suppose to be much better, if not its not worth the effort or rather having ppl to adapt to the new system if it isnt that wonderful afterall. Sad to say I didnt really come up with a better suggestion though I thought it will be better for reputation to remain as a candyeye whichever rewards us with stuff like a trophy logo (bronze silver gold) So people with like 10k post but 0 trophy will be more effectively reflect how 'senior' this particular member is & how he has been generally spamming his way to get the gold member etc. Thats not all! You can also set some stuff buyable with our SGCash when you attain certain trophy as an encouragement for ppl to make quality posts. Theres tons & tons of better ways I can think of to make reputation a better system rather than swapping their status around.

Not forgetting, its also important to post a welcome msg in welcome centre to let our new members know that this is a friendly environment although the fact is ,"haha I just wanna add my post la!" but look @ the response of new birds in the welcome forum. They are like ,"Wow this forum peeps are so friendly" & more ppl will join ur forum. They dont really care about what attributes this forum is based on, its more of the feel. And also, if u think 'lol' spam is lame, to me its sort of a reply to tell the TS ,"Yes I've read your post" , but of course its subjective, if thread topic calls for an opinion or suggestion but u lol'ed, its quite dumb. last but not least, by changing to reputation, you switch the focus of forum members posting trend from quantity -> quality which imo do not greatly enhance quality but greatly reduce quantity, if im not wrong a forum success is sort of based on forum traffic. The more posts, the more replies, & forum seems more active & lively..but anyway my point is.


I voted No.

User Ranks should still be based on Post count. Thanks for reading my cute little 2 cents in my pocket. Adios

[PassionSwirls]

neutral. can't decide. but i am okay with both. =)

[dadado]

i'm neutral since the ranks doesn't matter to me

[Fantasia]

Originally Posted by dadado

i'm neutral since the ranks doesn't matter to me

for me, my opinion will be leaning more to the no side.
reason is that the no. of post counts represent ur activeness within the forum, vibrant activity is what keeps a forum up and running.(not saying that good and quality posts are not, just that the traffic flow contributes more).

[Lancelot]

It is far easier to farm reputation points. If games like maple story is any indication, it is a poor way of generating ranks.

Furthermore, post counts indicate activity and should be valued more than just a fame game.

[Jolene.Ying]

Neutral.
One might create multi - threads or spam to gain the reputation,
And also, one might have good and informative threads and replies but the post count is low.

[facevoid]

LOL.
you will realised everyone will have a green nick the next day.

[hawkraven]

I feel that the user titles should be left as it is. From my experience as Administrator of several forums, this is the advice I can give. The reputation system is just a gauge of how qualified one's posts are, and thus should be left untouched as it is already doing what it is supposed to do. The green indicator below the user titles signify one's reputation, and there is no real need to edit that.

To the question: User ranks should still be based on posts as it does give the seniors sufficient recognizability. You can say that introducing the new user titles will do the job effectively, but consider that user titles are for describing oneself, and if a title is placed there to signify a rank, it will thoroughly lose its purpose.

Then, there are people that say that the reputation button is so small that it is easily overlooked; however, when one sees a good post, I do not see why they will forget to reward the poster with reputation. The reputation indicator is already good enough to give a rough gauge the quality of posts from the users, though at this point of time still needs to mature, allowing ranks to do so will defeat the purpose of having to install the reputation system in the first place.

I agree, that going by the above mentioned methods may increase average post quality, however, do we have to go to such lengths when this is a "more casual than formal" forum? (Pardon me, if you feel that it is not) You can try to reduce spam posts, but there will still be no way to completely remove it. Rules can be posted and yet masses of people still ignore them. Therefore, I feel that it doesn't really matter if the quality of posts here is not high, but I'd rather a place where users can post without having to frequently consider the quality of it or so forth. There is no need to be that harsh on members who do not make posts of superior quality, even if they happen to be a frequent eyesore. Let nature take its course. Introducing the reputation system was great, however, going to such drastic measures may seem a little too rash if I presume?

My suggestion - Leave things as they are. The members will get used to the reputation system, and soon its effect will start to have a wider impact on the forums.

~HawkRaven~

[sunnydays]

im leaning more to no. mainly because personally as a forumer, I don't even use the reputation function. plus, like the first reply, a quality post is subjective. what may be quality to one may not be to another. what may be a constructive comment can be a flame to another and what may be a wall of text with arguements to one may just be crap to another. post count is important in recognizing seniority and activeness here in the forums..