Are Singapore Governments Overpaid?

**uglybutadorable** · 10-04-2009, 05:00 PM

This is an extraction from the following website that show what kind of pay Singapore ministers were getting. Do you feel Singapore's ministers were overpaid?

Annual salaries of heads of government:

1. Singapore Prime Minister US$1,100,000 (S$1,958,000) a year

2. United States of America President: US$200,000

3. United Kingdom Prime Minister: US$170,556

4. Australia Prime Minister: US$137,060

Annual salaries of heads of government:

1. Singapore Minister: US$819,124

2. UK Minister: US$146,299

3. US Cabinet Secretary: US$157,000

(Source: Asian Wall Street Journal 10 Jul 2000)

**Asylii** · 10-04-2009, 05:03 PM

they are just wasting taxpayer's money, now i know why lee h____ ____ want to increase gst to 7% so it can enter his pocket.

**christmas_** · 10-04-2009, 05:06 PM

my answer is the opposite of 'NO'

well, if government happy then i dont care liao

**uglybutadorable** · 10-04-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Asylii

they are just wasting taxpayer's money, now i know why lee hsien loong want to increase gst to 7% so it can enter his pocket.

I'm kinda freaked out if this is getting abit too sensitive. Try not to mention any sensitive names or whatsoever. There is a limit.

There is no deny that our government is doing quite a good work in maintaining peace and security for us. However, I find it too exaggerating for our government to earn an annually pay of 5 times more than that of a US government. Of course, US government way of controlling its country's security is obviously not as strict as ours.

However, if we were to compare with a similiar country like Japan. They don't earn as much as the local govt.

In additional to that, the Mas Selamat case is one of the 'confidence downgrade' issue we have in the security and capability of the govt.

Please share your views.

**hansheng** · 10-04-2009, 05:19 PM

ya overpaid...so wat can we do? How many dare to go on riots? how many dare to go on streets to go against our government? how many dare to do all these that other countries r able to do?

**Asylii** · 10-04-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by uglybutadorable

I'm kinda freaked out if this is getting abit too sensitive. Try not to mention any sensitive names or whatsoever. There is a limit.

There is no deny that our government is doing quite a good work in maintaining peace and security for us. However, I find it too exaggerating for our government to earn an annually pay of 5 times more than that of a US government. Of course, US government way of controlling its country's security is obviously not as strict as ours.

However, if we were to compare with a similiar country like Japan. They don't earn as much as the local govt.

In additional to that, the Mas Selamat case is one of the 'confidence downgrade' issue we have in the security and capability of the govt.

Please share your views.

hahahaha.. well he can come and sue me if he want. then ill take that opportunity to have a good kopi session with him.

well if u have to see.. singapore is run by a government which majority is PAP. the minorities hardly got any say in parliament since their words will be opposed by the PAP, unlike other countries whereby their parliament consist of different parties. that way, their pay cant be too extremely high since its controlled..

plus, take a look at the mas selamat case.. all the people involved will either reprimanded, fired, demoted etc. but the big boss of them - the minister of home affairs got away scot-free without any "punishment". if such case occurs in other country, he'll probably get fired. but why? bcos the government has the last say in that.. and u probably will know why.

Asylii added 1 Minutes and 21 Seconds later...

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Originally Posted by hansheng

ya overpaid...so wat can we do? How many dare to go on riots? how many dare to go on streets to go against our government? how many dare to do all these that other countries r able to do?

+1 to that...... people are more concerned about surviving than going on riots.. people would rather work than take leave and riot. people worry about getting jailed for riot. thats why no one dare to oppose.. plus the only option is speaker's corner, you speak to the people.. but will they ever listen?

tell them the government is overpaid.. what could the listeners do? nothing.

**fallendust** · 10-04-2009, 05:46 PM

From wat Ts has shown, I do agree wif wat TS has said. The government's salaries has simply been overpaid. These money can instead go contribute to the sociey as funds. However I do have some points to share.

firstly, we have to note that Singapore is a very small country, as compared to other countries. Though hard to govern initially due to lack of natural resources and no support from others, however as Singapore has developed, Singapore's standard of living has significantly improved. This must give credit to our pioneer batch of government. But now the government belong to third generation PAP, the leaders obviously have taken over the baton that already given easier task of just maintaining the stability of the nation. So, the salary shd not be high. not saying that they never contribute at all, just that not much as compared to LKY or GCT's reign

As for the taxes, as I have said, standard of living has improved, obviously many's wealth has increased very much too, so government earning the taxes is the right decision, just that the taxes shd be more invested into the society.

**Asylii** · 10-04-2009, 06:04 PM

with the current recession, nothing has been done to the 7% tax..

**uglybutadorable** · 10-04-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Asylii

hahahaha.. well he can come and sue me if he want. then ill take that opportunity to have a good kopi session with him.

well if u have to see.. singapore is run by a government which majority is PAP. the minorities hardly got any say in parliament since their words will be opposed by the PAP, unlike other countries whereby their parliament consist of different parties. that way, their pay cant be too extremely high since its controlled..

plus, take a look at the mas selamat case.. all the people involved will either reprimanded, fired, demoted etc. but the big boss of them - the minister of home affairs got away scot-free without any "punishment". if such case occurs in other country, he'll probably get fired. but why? bcos the government has the last say in that.. and u probably will know why.

The PAP has almost complete control over the island. Minor opposition cannot survive at all.

There are many minor opposition parties get jailed for having their direct speech towards the govt. The most pathetic part, Singapore simply has no freedom of speech unlike the US.

See how the US ppl crush their very own ex-presidents. The opposition just don't get penalty over that. If u're going to say the 'least minor bad thing' to the PM, u get brainwashed and jailed like forever.

**Jodar** · 10-04-2009, 08:57 PM

http://www.sgclub.com/singapore/offi...ml#post2129627

Yes, our leaders are overpaid.

Btw, it's "Is Singapore's Government overpaid" not "Are Singapore Governments Overpaid".

**PECTOPAH** · 10-04-2009, 09:14 PM

overpaid or not its one thing, proficient or not its another thing

yes i would be inclined to think they are overpaid since they pegged their salaries to that of private sector

regarding the 7% GST, i think its acceptable...

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Originally Posted by Asylii

they are just wasting taxpayer's money, now i know why lee h____ ____ want to increase gst to 7% so it can enter his pocket.

this is exactly why they are governing singapore and u are here complaining
dont ask me to elaborate if u dont understand my statement

**hansheng** · 10-04-2009, 09:15 PM

Look like this thread talking about the government is useless cause if we talk bad about our gorvenment. we will be kenna track down and be jailed...lol...

**Huaikong** · 10-04-2009, 10:41 PM

wat to do even we say yes.only they say n they do,no NOs n Buts from us.

**uglybutadorable** · 10-04-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hansheng

Look like this thread talking about the government is useless cause if we talk bad about our gorvenment. we will be kenna track down and be jailed...lol...

LOL~ not only that.

SGC will be closed man!

**Asylii** · 10-04-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by uglybutadorable

LOL~ not only that.

SGC will be closed man!

it wont closed.. cos everyone will petition and threatened against them during the next GE.

**Stanstan** · 11-04-2009, 12:25 AM

a clean & the safest country you live in,

nothing is free in this world

**Jodar** · 11-04-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanstan

a clean & the safest country you live in,

nothing is free in this world

It is safe because it is small. The whole city is urbanized so it is easy to keep track of illegal activities. It is clean because, again, it is small. It is easy to clean up everywhere.

Besides, the reason why it is clean and safe now is because of the efforts of the pioneer batch of government. If the pioneer batch did so much but earned a modest salary, I do not see why the current batch needs to earn that high a salary.

And I have to question you: You said "they kept Singapore safe". When they let out Mas Selamat, how was it keeping Singapore safe? It endangers Singapore. Such a security lapse is ridiculous. Since they made Singapore not-as-safe, do they have a pay cut because of that?

No - do not use "Singapore is clean and safe" as a reason. Most of the laws and policies they came up with is commonsensical that lesser mortals like us can come up with too. First, tough laws if anyone litters and tough laws for anyone doing anything illegal. Next, pay the police well so they will do their job well.

It isn't that hard.

**hansheng** · 11-04-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Asylii

it wont closed.. cos everyone will petition and threatened against them during the next GE.

u sure it will work just for a SG forum? just like the petition for the mrt fare....now wat? so many years oso same...-.-

**Jodar** · 11-04-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hansheng

u sure it will work just for a SG forum? just like the petition for the mrt fare....now wat? so many years oso same...-.-

They won't close down an online forum just because of one or two members insulting them blatantly. (note: insulting =/= constructive criticism). That is, unless the forum is dedicated to insulting them.

Besides, there's so many blogs out there doing fine with their suaning of the government. Just don't get racial insults into the picture and you're fine.

**princess-selina** · 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM

I do agree that the government is overpaid . But what to do ? They have more authorities and rights than we do .