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Total SGC$: 516.38 |  Some help on computer upgrades
Hey guys, I'm currently considering upgrading my slightly more-than-1-year-old desktop. My first concern is that I have a freaking 5 year warranty, there's a sticker preventing my from opening the CPU case, so I'm wondering if my warranty would void if I were to upgrade my desktop, or will the warranty still be valid even if I were to just open up the casing to clean up the inside.
My PC's current specs is:
HP Pavilion
Win Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2X 512 MB DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-4200 / PC2-4300 / 533 MHz)
NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE
I'm thinking of upgrading my graphics card into 9600 and adding another 1 GB of RAM. But there's something about dual-channel thingy, so I'm wondering if its alright to simply add a single stick of 1GB DDR2-SDRAM RAM, or do I need to buy another two 512GM RAM?
Another thing is that the 9600 GPU, what happens if its too big to fit into its slot? As in the spaces around it. Would it be possible to calculate and tell if my PSU would supply enough power if I were to install the 9600 card since I do not know how much power each of my computer component uses. Are there any major bottleneck for the 9600 card with my current specs?
Sorry if some of the questions are too stupid since I'm not very good with computers. Thanks in advance for any advise.
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11-09-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1c3D3m0n  Hey guys, I'm currently considering upgrading my slightly more-than-1-year-old desktop. My first concern is that I have a freaking 5 year warranty, there's a sticker preventing my from opening the CPU case, so I'm wondering if my warranty would void if I were to upgrade my desktop, or will the warranty still be valid even if I were to just open up the casing to clean up the inside.
My PC's current specs is:
HP Pavilion
Win Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2X 512 MB DDR2-SDRAM (PC2-4200 / PC2-4300 / 533 MHz)
NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE
I'm thinking of upgrading my graphics card into 9600 and adding another 1 GB of RAM. But there's something about dual-channel thingy, so I'm wondering if its alright to simply add a single stick of 1GB DDR2-SDRAM RAM, or do I need to buy another two 512GM RAM?
Another thing is that the 9600 GPU, what happens if its too big to fit into its slot? As in the spaces around it. Would it be possible to calculate and tell if my PSU would supply enough power if I were to install the 9600 card since I do not know how much power each of my computer component uses. Are there any major bottleneck for the 9600 card with my current specs?
Sorry if some of the questions are too stupid since I'm not very good with computers. Thanks in advance for any advise. | For Geforce 9600 GT GPU, it should be able to fit into the slot, as it will occupy single slot (slim card profile). See the attached picture.
Dual-channel thing, if u want, add in 2 x 1 GB stick will be good or better still, 2 x 2 GB stick. Just remove the 2 x 512 MB ones as adding another pair of those is not very cost-effective.
Take note that Generic DDR2 Ram prices have dropped to very low level for now.
For the power of each component, can check out over the Net, as there are different power usage, its difficult to explain here.
For bottleneck issues with Geforce 9600GT, think it should be ok ba. Dun think will have a major issue with E6400 Core 2 Duo CPU.
That's all i can help for now... 
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11-09-2008, 12:54 PM
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9600GT? hmm good choice, jus get a Kingston 1 x 2gb ram, still works the same as 2 x 1gb ram, dual channel? helps a bit lah, but getting 1 stick of 2gb gives u more room for expandability. its like about 50+ bucks 
E6400?? sure is one old chip man, but no worries, shldnt be any problem, till maybe when u start playing Crysis, when the chip default speed isnt providing enuff juice
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Originally Posted by Cesario 9600GT? hmm good choice, jus get a Kingston 1 x 2gb ram, still works the same as 2 x 1gb ram, dual channel? helps a bit lah, but getting 1 stick of 2gb gives u more room for expandability. its like about 50+ bucks
E6400?? sure is one old chip man, but no worries, shldnt be any problem, till maybe when u start playing Crysis, when the chip default speed isnt providing enuff juice | But Cesario, his board most likely support max 4GB ram, so get dual channel is ok IMO...
Dun think E6400 can handle Crysis well, but with 9600 GT should be better le...
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Thanks for the fast response!
Anyway, is it possible to leave my current 2X 512 MB RAM alone and simply add another 1GB RAM? Because I don't feel like dumping away those 2 sticks of RAM. I'm asking about the dual channel thing is because my mobo supports it and HP uses 2X 512 MB stick instead of 1X 1GB is to take advantage of dual channel. So my concern is if I have to pair up the RAMs.
I was hoping to play games like Crysis, Assasin's Creed, NFS: Prostreet on high, if not, very high. Would it be possible with the upgraded 9600 and 2GB RAM?
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btw... if u open up the casing... i tink the warranty will be void... coz most of the stickers got this kind of label...
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why not DIY is u're afraid of the limitations of the warranty sticker? u can still get the same specs and have the flexibility of upgrading/downgrading anything/anytime u want..  | |
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Originally Posted by 1c3D3m0n Thanks for the fast response!
Anyway, is it possible to leave my current 2X 512 MB RAM alone and simply add another 1GB RAM? Because I don't feel like dumping away those 2 sticks of RAM. I'm asking about the dual channel thing is because my mobo supports it and HP uses 2X 512 MB stick instead of 1X 1GB is to take advantage of dual channel. So my concern is if I have to pair up the RAMs.
I was hoping to play games like Crysis, Assasin's Creed, NFS: Prostreet on high, if not, very high. Would it be possible with the upgraded 9600 and 2GB RAM? | It can be around medium settings i think, with 9600 GT and 2 GB Ram, due to CPU bottleneck or something like that...
If want take advantage of dual channel, use another 2 x 512 MB ram ba, if not just remove them and get 2 x 1 GB or 1 x 2 GB ..
Take note if use 1 x 2 GB, there's no dual channel applied.. 
So decide carefully for the RAMs ba,  Quote:
Originally Posted by jonwhoosh why not DIY is u're afraid of the limitations of the warranty sticker? u can still get the same specs and have the flexibility of upgrading/downgrading anything/anytime u want.. | TS just wants to upgrade his current computer, so as to stick to cost-effectiveness...
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Before opening up and doing anything,
please check with HP on warranty issues, if not suddenly u might discover all your parts have void warranty.
Eg. Acer, even if you open up they will still cover those original parts by them.
goenitz33 added 0 Minutes and 44 Seconds later...
As for Dual Channel issues, forget abt it.
performance gain in real time is less then 2% and in benchmarks less then 5%.
not much of a difference IMO.
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In other words if I were to simply slot in another 1GB stick of RAM, it still makes up 2GB just that dual channel thingy doesn't function? I have very limited cash on hand so I can't spend much, so a 9600GT and 1 stick of RAM would cost about like $300~$400? I'll leave the processor alone since its not that bad.
Maybe I'll try calling HP later about upgrading my com. I think that HP warranty is only 1 year or so, the remaining years are Courts Extended Warranty, gona comfirm that later.
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Originally Posted by CheeseKnlght It can be around medium settings i think, with 9600 GT and 2 GB Ram, due to CPU bottleneck or something like that...
If want take advantage of dual channel, use another 2 x 512 MB ram ba, if not just remove them and get 2 x 1 GB or 1 x 2 GB ..
Take note if use 1 x 2 GB, there's no dual channel applied..
So decide carefully for the RAMs ba,
TS just wants to upgrade his current computer, so as to stick to cost-effectiveness... | oops. my bad. anyways thats why i dun like ready-made comps.. so much limitations and issues..  | |
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Originally Posted by 1c3D3m0n In other words if I were to simply slot in another 1GB stick of RAM, it still makes up 2GB just that dual channel thingy doesn't function? I have very limited cash on hand so I can't spend much, so a 9600GT and 1 stick of RAM would cost about like $300~$400? I'll leave the processor alone since its not that bad.
Maybe I'll try calling HP later about upgrading my com. I think that HP warranty is only 1 year or so, the remaining years are Courts Extended Warranty, gona comfirm that later. | Then can go for 1 x 1 GB ba, if not considering dual-channel, but i suggest get 2 x 1 GB sticks ba, since dual-channel already in place, why not use it ???
HP warranty normally is 1 year standard...
Other warranty should be by retailer instead... 2 x 2 GB sticks now around $ 110 market price... 9600 GT price is very low le... Palit ones are cheapest i think...
The cost should be roughly $210 ~ $300 range...
End upgrade :
minimum -> 2 GB + 9600 GT
maxmum -> 4 GB *Dual-channel* + 9600 GT
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Originally Posted by jonwhoosh oops. my bad. anyways thats why i dun like ready-made comps.. so much limitations and issues.. | Its ok, must take note of group of people who wants hassle-free computer purchase, can use can le type, with stable warranty period by major brands...
I also use DIY computers, same reason as you, jonwhoosh... Limitations & Issues... >.<
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anyway, just stick with 2 x 2gb rams. i got 1 set at 108
Graphic card? either u get the 9600GT @ 159, if not HD4850 @229.
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Originally Posted by Cesario anyway, just stick with 2 x 2gb rams. i got 1 set at 108
Graphic card? either u get the 9600GT @ 159, if not HD4850 @229. | Yea, either get Geforce 9600 GT or ATI HD 4850
Then outfit with 4 GB Ram, total around $270 ~ $340 range, as specified by Cesario.
Do take note that the mainboard may accept Rams with certain frequencies, like your board may support up to DDR2-667Mhz ones, if nt wrong.
Thx to Cesario for the updated prices,
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it will downclock by itself, on a general basis it will work.
unless your board got special requirements.
Branded PCs might have special requirements sometimes.
certain 3rd party parts might not work with it.
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Er i recommend u get 2 GB of ram [ 2 x 1GB ] and GT9600 why not ? Window Vista Ultimate ?
If u open the CPU the warranty will void if u see behind there is a protective sticker
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