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Old 17-07-2008, 07:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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S'pore ticks off British writer over article
The S'pore model of authoritarian govt is an assault on democracy, he says
By Zakir Hussain


SINGAPORE has taken to task a British writer who disparaged the Republic as a modern, undemocratic form of authoritarianism.

Mr John Kampfner, writing in The Guardian newspaper, had highlighted Singapore as a model for a growing phenomenon he had observed in many countries, including Britain.

The phenomenon: the willingness of highly educated, well-travelled people to trade some freedoms in return for prosperity or security.

He termed it a 'pact' which he views as an assault on democracy, and concluded: 'It is providing a modicum of a good life, and a quiet life, the ultimate anaesthetic for the brain.'

His view was rejected by Singapore's High Commissioner in London, Mr Michael Teo.

Mr Teo, in a letter to The Guardian, argued that while liberal democracy works for the West, it has rarely delivered 'stable, legitimate and effective government' in Asia.

He outlined how Singapore's system of democracy had worked for its people, giving them one of the highest standards of living in Asia, a good education and a competent government.

'Those who disagree with or oppose the Government are free to speak out, challenge the Government, and contest in free and fair elections,' he added.

'Had our system not consistently benefited the vast majority of citizens...the ruling party would have been voted out of office long ago.'

Mr Teo also pointed out that Mr Kampfner got it wrong when he indicated that larger states such as China and Russia were looking at adopting the Singapore system.

He said Singapore is one possible model being studied by the two countries for their own development.

Ultimately, 'these large countries, with their long histories and ancient cultures, will develop in their own ways', he said.

'They are not likely to morph into Western liberal democracies, regardless of what Singapore does.'

Mr Teo's reply, which was published on The Guardian's website on Tuesday, comes days after Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew made the point that human rights groups had an agenda when they criticised Singapore's style of government.

They saw it as a threat, now that the Russians and Chinese were studying Singapore's success story, Mr Lee had said.

Mr Teo, in his reply, also made the point that Singapore started with a Westminster-style parliamentary system.

But the system was adapted to suit Singapore's 'unique position' as 'a small, multi-racial, multi-religious city in the middle of a turbulent South-east Asia', he said.

Every society had to strike its own balance between individual liberties and the common good, he wrote.

'Some in the West like John Kampfner feel a calling to go forth and convert the heathen to Western liberal democracy.

'But the true test is what works in the real world, with real societies,' he said.

Then, to drive home his point, he turned Mr Kampfner's conclusion on its head, saying: 'To worship a Western model as the only way, and dismiss all other solutions as authoritarian or undemocratic, is surely the ultimate anaesthetic for the brain.'

Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Sto...ry_258479.html

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Old 17-07-2008, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i think Mr. Micheal Teo should have kept quite and not say anything. Cos once you open your mouth that means that you have shown to them what they say is true


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but i kinda agree with Mr. Teo. John Kampfner compared singapore democracy against western democracy, and due to the difference, he criticized singapore version of democracy. But in doing this, in insisting his way of thinking is right and those who differ is wrong, is in itself anti-democracy. Note that he was not fighting for Singaporean's rights. He is just comparing with his own.

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Maybe PM Lee will whack him up.

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haha... u know who we need? MM Lee...... (just like he had previously done) blast the guy until he go back into his turtle shell...

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Michael Teo on the last sentence was powerrrr. Impresses me when Singaporeans write like that. we need more people like him. And he should of course respond and a good response he gave, as a High Comm to London.

We are not 东亚病夫. Never take unwarranted insults like that and walk away.

You should ask me how many times I got into fights and beat up whiteys when I lived in England. My only friends there were whites and they would fight shoulder to shoulder with me against other whites and pakis.

Know why I never had Asian friends in the UK? Cos they are all too chicken to stand up for themselves. Depend on them... sure die!

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We need those elites to make this country a more advance society.

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He has got a point, but "Good and quiet life" is a good thing, not something to avoid. Epic fail!

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He has got a point, but "Good and quiet life" is a good thing, not something to avoid. Epic fail!

You see, in their world... things can get really dangerous. So quiet is boring. take USA for example... guns and muggings are common. So when people are nice, they say good morning, etc.. you feel glad and you want to exchange that gladness and you greet them back, make small talk and generally be nice to a total stranger.

take singapore... TOO safe liao! so, you say good morning to someone... they look at you like you CRAZY ah! as if you want something from them. (when in many cases... there are no agendas).

especially girls in Singapore... macham they damnnnnnn pretty - AS IF. act like talk already can lose virginity like that, or scared of (I don't know what) tao ga beh sih... but overseas... even the extremely hot girls, there is no problem on their part to talk to you, exchange contacts, etc. because they are confident of themselves and as I mentioned they appreciate people who are nice... . on the contrary to the younger chicks... the older aunties in Singapore... you greet them good morning or good evening, they damn happy and talk talk talk seh. (but also got some insecure crazy ones).

same me. different reaction. just because this place is too safe. people don't appreciate genuinely nice people anymore. always suspicious and thinking you want something.
it's sad.... so sad... . it's a sad sad situation... and it's getting more and more absurd.


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Yea, I went US recently. Alot of beggers, asking for change. Reminds me of that southpark episode.

But safe is still good. He should then comment on our lack of friendliness and openness in that case.

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Had Singapore adopt a fully democratic approach to governance and the complete freedom to its people, she will not be what she is today... Could be ten times or more worse... So although Singapore is not all that democratic like the western countries, I'm still very supportive of how the government has ran the country thus far. They're doing a great job, and this has made Singapore one of the most sought after countries in the world.

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Had Singapore adopt a fully democratic approach to governance and the complete freedom to its people, she will not be what she is today... Could be ten times or more worse... So although Singapore is not all that democratic like the western countries, I'm still very supportive of how the government has ran the country thus far. They're doing a great job, and this has made Singapore one of the most sought after countries in the world.
I agree, democracy is like a credit card. Give a child a credit card. It's only a matter of time before he learns to misuse the card. Get the point?

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