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Old 15-06-2009, 07:30 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Default Re: S'poreans: Educated, but with poor upbringing

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parents do nothing to teach them.
they though school teached them, which practically dont.

I was once kaisu citizen to squeeze into the train, but now zzz dont bothered LoL.
I dont find it nice to do so, even you got in earlier, there might be no seats.
Interesting example imho, even from here we can see that we tend not to do something mainly because it doesn't benefit us, rather than because it's not a nice thing to do in itself...

Much to learn, myself included ;-)

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Old 16-06-2009, 01:20 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Default Re: S'poreans: Educated, but with poor upbringing

On the MRT, they do not give up their seats to the needy, neither do they allow alighting passengers to get off before squeezing their way into the carriage.

Take a look at Japan's subway systems and you would then really know what is meant by the bolded part.

Students compete both academically and in the sporting arena, "every one of them more fiercely competitive than the other", she said.

I choose to think that we should blame this on the paper chase culture in Singapore, rather than on one's upbringing. Afterall, it's only human nature to strive for the best, and out there, it's survival of the strongest.

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Old 16-06-2009, 01:38 AM   #63 (permalink)
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i agree with the deejay..

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Default Re: S'poreans: Educated, but with poor upbringing

Phu Chua Kang still haven't change us haha! Not saying that he should be the one...
I take MRT everyday i do see some people giving up their seats okay! I sometimes i sit at priority seat if its not crowded.
But one thing will never change! People will never allow alighting passengers to get off before squeezing their way into the carriage!
And i totally agree about the upbringing thingy. Without my mother i would still be called a 'typical singaporean'.

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AGREE!

But there's nothing we can do anything about it. Whatever is there... it will just stay there.
if everyone do a part den there will b chance to success in changing. i found this phrase quite useful "if u whine n not moving forward u wont change a thing, but if u whine n moving alittle each day, someday u might change something"

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Old 16-06-2009, 10:01 AM   #66 (permalink)
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if everyone do a part den there will b chance to success in changing. i found this phrase quite useful "if u whine n not moving forward u wont change a thing, but if u whine n moving alittle each day, someday u might change something"
sadly, no one's doing their part

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Whip out the fines and start fining people for aberrant behavior. The only way to make naughty Singaporeans behave is to hit their wallet

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Whip out the fines and start fining people for aberrant behavior. The only way to make naughty Singaporeans behave is to hit their wallet
like this you will create more and more complaints abt govt, you know ?

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Well.. to a certain extent its because of the culture of being "punished" for something that you do... so when there is no "punishment" in place, then all hell just breaks lose lor... Just see SG tourists' behaviour in other countries.

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She told the newspaper: "Singaporeans reserve seats with tissue paper packets and they leave trash behind after gatherings. On the MRT, they do not give up their seats to the needy, neither do they allow alighting passengers to get off before squeezing their way into the carriage."

Ask her to use other words please, WE ARE KIASU and I freaking hell admit that. Poor upbringing huh? We like the most peaceful country that can be ever found.

JUST look at china,they can sell you thumbdrives with only the head, or making fake eggs to scam people. MIDDLE east, children as young as four carrying AK-47. IN THE STATES, racial discrimination prevails. THEN WTH are them?

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nowadays people's mind are education and money ... no upbringing in their mind

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Default Re: S'poreans: Educated, but with poor upbringing

Guys. THIS IS SINGAPORE.
everythings about qualifications,certs,money,and results.
the process is no longer needed.
we cant change this. because of our government, everything becomes so competitive.
childrens at the age of 7, they are taught to score well. stress to make them go to top schools.
parents teach them to only keep things to themselves, being selfish.

Students, even with bad manners, principals, discipline masters, cant lay a finger on them.
because of laws, keeping up with the world.
even if possible, they wont be bothered?
why?
because our current living society is moving so fast and everythings about being "black and white"
tiny stuffs, this cannot, that cannot. Everyone just cannot tahan stuff.
whats so hard about letting go and go easy.
little things, want fight, want pride, demand respect. settle in court
and because of this everyone learns to "siam" stuffs.
Heard before this line?
" Can Siam then Siam. Cannot Siam then Push. Cannot Push then GG."
happens so often, froms schools to office to government servants.

and we need to be realistic, because of our society. everything's about appearance, money and status.

Man A having a basic salary of 10k, chooses not to drives a luxury car, instead a motocycle.
compared to Man B having a 3k a month, buys cars. wears branded stuff.
When seen together, others would look down on Man A. just because of hes appearance.

That is why. We put aside the process.
Upbringing is not part of status, appearance, certs, and money.

Hence, the poor upbringing.
Yes. We ARE educated. But never mannered.

just my Two Cents.
and P.S, im not against the Government of anything.
They are really doing a great job.
They cant please everyone right?

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That's definitely the case. Some people lack moral teachings, it's something beyond what school can teach. Parents play an important role, it's like a "Monkey sees, monkey do" thing, children tend to follow their parents.

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finally the truth...

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cuz they pass the upbringing of kids to the teachers
Teachers to parents and then to teachers: the blame just gets shifted around. Ultimately it should be the parents. Earlier generations of parents did their fair share, why the current generation cannot? They are just LAZY....

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Phu Chua Kang still haven't change us haha! Not saying that he should be the one...
I take MRT everyday i do see some people giving up their seats okay! I sometimes i sit at priority seat if its not crowded.
But one thing will never change! People will never allow alighting passengers to get off before squeezing their way into the carriage!
And i totally agree about the upbringing thingy. Without my mother i would still be called a 'typical singaporean'.
Phua Chu Kang will be the first one to rush to the seat, given his mentality..He does nt take public transport...

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finally the truth...
the truth is never sweet


PS: The minority people have no choice but to follow the majority for fear of losing out..

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Teachers to parents and then to teachers: the blame just gets shifted around. Ultimately it should be the parents. Earlier generations of parents did their fair share, why the current generation cannot? They are just LAZY....

PS: The minority people have no choice but to follow the majority for fear of losing out..

i agree. teachers are there, only to educate and guide them.
its really up to parents to teach them life and moral values.
like the chinese saying.

养不教
父之过
教不严
师之惰

and yet the government requires every student to take up the CME ( Civis and Moral Education ) lessons.
really think its an utter waste of resources.
every week somemore.

my point is, at the end of the day. its parents who have to bear the consequences.
seeing their children misled, turn bad. its really onto them isnt it?

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omg. did someone piss her off and therefore she wrote in her blog to relieve her gas?

seriously. if they were younger like kids, the kiasu came from the competition we always get in our schools now. if they are not competitive, then they are find something else negative to comment, Sg kids too soft and in-competitive compared to FTs.

the poor upbringing is totally plain stupid. looks like she forgot to think with her brain.
as again, the media and its people have godly skills of generalization.

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Strongly agreed...

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blame our education system

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I don't quite understand this tread. Because what I have been encountered was actually different scenario from that commented here... Perhaps TS should add a "SOME" infront of the Subject.
But excuse me please, how many Singaporeans here concur to this? I'm not a xenophobia anyway.

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