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Old 30th June 2010, 11:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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will you still want to work for them?The true about certain giant computer company.

I have been working in certain giant computer's company (MNC) for more than 5years and above.
Many of the senior guys over there have been bolted out (resign) or hopeless waiting for the retrenchment package. This won't be arrived for another 20 years.
Where else every 3 months the VP or upper management will send an email out telling you that the company have made a profit but not any losses.
The hope of getting a pay increment or promotion or job rotation to other post in management level. Will be hard.
(Even have pay increment you won't be getting much but a discount rate of 20 percent according to the job market's wage.)

In order for the MNC to survive a large number of foreigners is begin employ from overseas. Such as pinoy, prc and myanma.

And with the system of ranking in performance it is even more harder why do i say that?
Below are the ranking systems that it
K: Kaki (a yes men), keep on carrying favor to upper management
P: potentially of carrying favor
N: Noticeable or noted of your existence
I: idiot

In order to fulfill the pay increment or promotion
1) you must be good looking
2) senior roles (or class 4 instead of class 3)
3) the elite in k-ranking
4) paper qualification
As for the increment is only 1.25 to 5%.

In this type of condition you still want to work for them?
sigh even fresh grad are drawing a pay that high than me.

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Old 30th June 2010, 12:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you are still young?if yes then leave and get other job..

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Old 30th June 2010, 12:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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no , i am in my mid thirdy .my second jobs.
no paper qualification .

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Old 30th June 2010, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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den try to study for a degree. that is the real world man. u cant blame them n hope to get something, u have to work with the society, not against.

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currently been doing it . still have another 2 more years to go.
shall have done it 12 years ago once ord . family poor unabled to afford it.
parent kind of S 11 type.


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Old 30th June 2010, 01:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: will you still want to work for them?The true about certain giant computer company.

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I have been working in certain giant computer's company (MNC) for more than 5years and above.
Many of the senior guys over there have been bolted out (resign) or hopeless waiting for the retrenchment package. This won't be arrived for another 20 years.
Where else every 3 months the VP or upper management will send an email out telling you that the company have made a profit but not any losses.
The hope of getting a pay increment or promotion or job rotation to other post in management level. Will be hard.
(Even have pay increment you won't be getting much but a discount rate of 20 percent according to the job market's wage.)

In order for the MNC to survive a large number of foreigners is begin employ from overseas. Such as pinoy, prc and myanma.

And with the system of ranking in performance it is even more harder why do i say that?
Below are the ranking systems that it
K: Kaki (a yes men), keep on carrying favor to upper management
P: potentially of carrying favor
N: Noticeable or noted of your existence
I: idiot

In order to fulfill the pay increment or promotion
1) you must be good looking
2) senior roles (or class 4 instead of class 3)
3) the elite in k-ranking
4) paper qualification
As for the increment is only 1.25 to 5%.

In this type of condition you still want to work for them?
sigh even fresh grad are drawing a pay that high than me.
good looking is also a criteria? hahahaha! thats a no no for me.
hope u find a company that notices you.

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Its looking presentable... not necessary good looking.

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yah, try to keep on upgrading urself, ppl will sure noe de. if no one does, time to change.

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kind of sian when you hear that your pay is the same as last years the years before last years and the years before before last year . And news of your company doing well and takes over other two big company...

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Re: will you still want to work for them?The true about certain giant computer company.

IT industry on the whole is like this. Live with it or move on. Time for you to upgrade & get some new skills, like managment, sale or accounting. For me, I took up accounting & never look back.

Good luck.

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Re: will you still want to work for them?The true about certain giant computer company.

Me in IT. Life in IT is always the same old, same old. Cheaper alternatives always come in.

Hang on a while, finish your education, and then leave.

Or if you found a job, then go.

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currently doing my education and actively sending my CV online. where else in current job i don't give a shit about it. Neither am i going to work extra no of hours for them. And always say wo bu zhi dao.

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Old 1st July 2010, 12:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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this sound so fimilar.... u refering to jmnc

anyway in IT u dont need paper qualification... u need if u wan to move up.. bt u dont need if u wan a descent pay job....bt of cos u must hv the skill la....

actually there is super lots of IT opening everywhere nw la... if u wan can PM mi ur skill set den i see if any of the 100+ listing gt suitable de or nt loh...

PS: I'm not from any job agency....

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Re: will you still want to work for them?The true about certain giant computer company.

Was browsing through yesterday’s issue of “TODAY” and saw a report about it being a job-seeker’s market now – about how candidates are turning down job offers and companies being willing to make higher offers in return + how companies are offering increments & other benefits to retain talent. The IT industry was one of those mentioned positively.

Hence I reckon, it might be a good time to make a change.

However, u might want to weigh the pros & cons of job-switching and consider them carefully before taking ur next step.

As you also mentioned, you are in the midst of taking your degree and it’ll be completed in 2 years? With that piece of paper you will be in the position to request for a higher starting salary so that might be something u wanna think about – to leave now or to leave 2 years later.

Anyway with regards to your original question about whether one would stay or otherwise. Mhmm… if it’s up to me, I would probably leave but there will always be factors that might affect my decision eg. whether I have a family to support, my financial burden at that point of time… etc.

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Actually it's the same everywhere. You don't think that in other companies, the ranking is very fair bah... I can tell you in some companies, people without qualification also can be Manager. You just need to know the right people and play politics.. You have to see what matters to you most in your career. For me, it's nice colleagues and I can do my work peacefully. Increment 1% - 5% is very common!!! Be happy there is increment!

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yea... now, u dun need any paper to be a manager le.. how cool it is

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