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Old 10th September 2019, 03:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Stupid court of appeal gives red light running driver who hit pedestrian 15% discount

Stupid court of appeal gives red light running driver who hit pedestrian 15% discount.

1) How was the taxi speed ascertained? Merely based on the taxi driver lawyer hired specialist witness opinion? Probably the taxi driver was speeding so even if pedestrian tried to evade the taxi, he would have been hit.

2) No mention of other witnesses or car camera, so how do we know that the pedestrian was guilty of not paying attention to the road etc?

Even the 2 appeal judges argument that the pedestrian should instead hide at the island assumes that the taxi driver will drive straight when most people who blatantly ignore traffic lights are likely intoxicated somewhat and cannot drive straight (there is equal chance that he might have been killed standing inside the traffic island) . The crossing 'island' was also a false idea since there is no pedestrian crossing button fixed, which would mean that the pedestrian would have to cross illegally (more dangerously) if he were to miss his crossing time limit because he had to give way to cars ignoring the red light signal.

In the circumstance given, the appeal judges shouldn't try to be too clever and apply an absurd expectation of the pedestrian being alert like a thief trying to avoid the police, instead, due to lack of evidence that the pedestrian wasn't paying attention, he should be compensated 100%. If any, the pedestrian had lawfully triggered the pedestrian crossing button and waited for his turn to cross but the taxi driver totally ignored all rules and regulations and ignored the traffic light signal to stop totally.

In fact, the victim pedestrian ought to receive punitive damages which he is to donate to a road safety advocacy charity of his choice.


Pedestrians with right of way 'must still share responsibility'


The lights were green in Mr Li's favour when he was knocked down by a cab driver in 2011 at the crossing in Bukit Batok West Avenue 5 (above). In 2014, the High Court found the driver fully to blame for the accident.
The lights were green in Mr Li's favour when he was knocked down by a cab driver in 2011 at the crossing in Bukit Batok West Avenue 5 (above). In 2014, the High Court found the driver fully to blame for the accident.ST PHOTO: LAU FOOK KONG
PUBLISHED: MAR 19, 2016, 5:00 AM SGT

Appeals Court rules injured victim 15% to blame although lights were in his favour
K.C. VijayanSenior Law Correspondent
Even if the lights are in their favour, pedestrians still have to check for oncoming traffic.

This was held in a rare 2-1 Court of Appeal decision in which the Chief Justice dissented.

Judge of Appeal Chao Hick Tin and Justice Quentin Loh, who were in the majority, explained their reasoning by highlighting a Highway Code rule that requires pedestrians to be on the alert.

"Pedestrians should take charge of their own safety," the court said in judgment grounds issued on Thursday, and decided the injured victim in the case before it was 15 per cent to blame despite having the right of way.

Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon, who wrote a separate view explaining his objections, said the ruling means "that pedestrians will no longer be able to take comfort in the fact that they are crossing at a point controlled by a police officer or by traffic lights".

"They will have to safeguard themselves in precisely the same manner in such circumstances as if they were jaywalking."

In Oct 2014, the High Court had found taxi driver Asnah Rahman, who was being sued by the victim, fully to blame for the accident which seriously injured then 21-year-old national serviceman Li Jianlin at a pedestrian crossing in Bukit Batok West Avenue 5.

On June 2, 2011, at about 10pm, the lights were green in his favour when he was knocked down. He suffered serious head and hip injuries, and was hospitalised for three months.

Green man on?

PEDESTRIANS SHOULD STILL CHECK

All we are saying is that a pedestrian should bear a small portion of the shared responsibility to guard against the risks of accidents if he is well placed to do so with minimal cost and effort on his part.

The Chinese saying 'the road is like a tiger's mouth'... remains valid even in the context of the modern-day signalised crossings because its deployment can only reduce road dangers but not eliminate them altogether.

We bear in mind that many accidents such as the one before us can well be avoided if pedestrians could simply remain attentive when they cross the road and refrain from getting distracted by mobile devices.

JUDGE OF APPEAL CHAO HICK TIN AND JUSTICE QUENTIN LOH

NO COMFORT AT CROSSING

I find it unsatisfactory that a road user who is acting entirely within and in accordance with the law should be subjected to a duty to guard against the dangerous (and not merely careless) conduct of others...

The result of the ruling today is that pedestrians will no longer be able to take comfort in the fact that they are crossing at a point controlled by a police officer or by traffic lights. They will have to safeguard themselves in precisely the same manner in such circumstances as if they were jaywalking.

CHIEF JUSTICE SUNDARESH MENON

For dangerous driving, Madam Asnah, 59, was also fined $2,400 and disqualified from driving for six months by a district court in 2012.

The cab's insurer appealed, with lawyer Anthony Wee arguing that Mr Li should be 35 per cent to blame for failing to check for approaching traffic as he crossed the second half of the dual carriageway which had a centre divider.

Mr Wee cited rule 20 of the Highway Code, which states: "Where a pedestrian crossing has a central refuge, each half is a separate crossing and you should treat it as such."

Mr Li's lawyer Eric Liew countered that the pedestrian had no duty to continuously look left or right when the signal lights were in his favour. The victim, who also suffered amnesia, could not recall if he was on the lookout when he crossed the second half of the road.

At issue was whether Mr Li, now a polytechnic student, had a responsibility to take care of his own safety.

The court's majority pointed to rule 22 of the Highway Code.

It requires pedestrians at a light controlled crossing to wait on the footway until the traffic in front has come to a standstill. This means those on foot should keep a lookout for errant motorists regardless of how long the lights have turned in favour of the pedestrian, wrote Justice Chao. This was because there was risk of the motorist having fallen asleep from fatigue, driving while drunk and using a mobile phone.

The court noted it takes no more than a split second to see if it is safe to cross the road. But it was also stressed that this does not mean motorists should be less vigilant.

"All we are saying is that a pedestrian should bear a small portion of the shared responsibility," said Justice Chao.

The Chief Justice argued the litmus test should be whether Mr Li acted reasonably, with the amount of self-care that a normal person would have exercised in his case.

He asked if it was reasonable to expect Mr Li to guard against a driver who drove "as if there was no traffic light and no controlled pedestrian crossing there at all". Only if the answer was "yes" could one consider if there were extra steps Mr Li could have taken.

He pointed out there was no footway in the middle of the road as a divider, making rule 20 and rule 22 irrelevant. He also found Madam Asnah had not shown that Mr Li failed to check for traffic when he approached the centre of the crossing.

The judgment means that when the case returns to the High Court in September to assess the damages payable to Mr Li, the sum will be discounted by 15 per cent.

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Re: Stupid court of appeal gives red light running driver who hit pedestrian 15% discount

Really ridiculous. This will become a dangerous precedent in the future for such cases.
Next time lawyers can just fight and quoting this lawsuit as a example to mitigate further responsibilities and payout from the one who is at fault

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