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Old 28th July 2009, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The 21grams soul

ok la
i heard this from a coach while attending a workshop today

in the laws of physics,

it is said that energy cannot be destroyed nor created, and the energy is the universe is a constant
it can only be converted into another form


so scientist conduct a test to find out
when people dies, where did all their energy go??

so they conduct a experiment, and they put those die-ing people that is willing to be part of the experiment,
on a weighing bed

and when their pulse stops and when they die, all of the dead bodies lose their weight by 21g, and that is said to be the weight of a soul
so souls do have weight


so is it really true??

when i was asked this question, i wondered, when the person dies, his/her energy will be dissipated into the universe, but thats not the case


so anyone believes??

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Old 28th July 2009, 09:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The 21grams soul

wow.. if this had been theoretically proven.. guess our 'soul' weighs 21g.

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Old 28th July 2009, 09:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: The 21grams soul

when it weighs 21g
then will the soul be straying around???

or will it be converted into some other forms of energy??

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Re: The 21grams soul

is it exactly 21grams and how many people did they base the test on?

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Re: The 21grams soul

Guess we can assume the energy was dissipated into the air(?) Too bad it doesn't convert into something like light energy lol~

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Re: The 21grams soul

hmm, source please!

really meh?
is it possible when our heart stops, it stop the blood flow...
then weight decrease by 21g? lols ...

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Re: The 21grams soul

no source wor
a coach told me

maybe you can try searching on internet
i type 21g soul in google alot of things came out

the experiment was conducted on dogs and the dogs lost nothing
soul had substance and, therefore, a measurable mass

the experiment is conducted by Dr. Duncan MacDougall


maybe we should test that when we sleep or dream does we weigh 21g lighter because the soul leaves our body and wander around


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Re: The 21grams soul

Since u said souls have weight.. then can we assume souls have mass as well?

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Re: The 21grams soul

'soul had substance and, therefore, a measurable mass'
by Dr. Duncan MacDougall

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Since u said souls have weight.. then can we assume souls have mass as well?
ok... wow i didn't know our souls leave our body when we sleep o.o

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Re: The 21grams soul

Originally Posted by lousydk View Post
no source wor
a coach told me

maybe you can try searching on internet
i type 21g soul in google alot of things came out

the experiment was conducted on dogs and the dogs lost nothing
soul had substance and, therefore, a measurable mass

the experiment is conducted by Dr. Duncan MacDougall


maybe we should test that when we sleep or dream does we weigh 21g lighter because the soul leaves our body and wander around

i thought all dogs go to heaven? O_o

Anyway thats crap. Its true that energy cannot be created or destroyed. In the natural world, when we die, the energy in our bodies (stored as fat and etc) will break down and be returned to nature to be recycled

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Re: The 21grams soul

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Since u said souls have weight.. then can we assume souls have mass as well?
ok... wow i didn't know our souls leave our body when we sleep o.o
it is some kind of belief

and therefore
cannot draw on other ppl face if they sleeping
if not their soul cannot recognise their body and the person will not wake up

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Originally Posted by createweb View Post
i thought all dogs go to heaven? O_o

Anyway thats crap. Its true that energy cannot be created or destroyed. In the natural world, when we die, the energy in our bodies (stored as fat and etc) will break down and be returned to nature to be recycled
not sure
it is sort of said that dogs are not blessed with a soul
dont know what that means



found on google
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2004/...cience.science


soul energy??
what can soul energy be converted into??
since it cant wont it be that all our souls are wandering around after death

is that why rituals are conducted to place the soul in places where they should be


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Re: The 21grams soul

erms. interesting topic.

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Re: The 21grams soul

sort of a topic of science vs the supernatural/beliefs

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Re: The 21grams soul

hmm i would like to guess... lol.. that maybe it is because of the force exerted by our muscles and flow of blood?...

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Re: The 21grams soul

wow so dogs really don't have souls.. that's sad.. anyhow.. i wanna make a guess too, maybe the soul energy converted to heat and left our body ?

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Re: The 21grams soul

Originally Posted by lousydk View Post

not sure
it is sort of said that dogs are not blessed with a soul
dont know what that means
Dude i was be sacarstic >_>


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soul energy??
what can soul energy be converted into??
since it cant wont it be that all our souls are wandering around after death

is that why rituals are conducted to place the soul in places where they should be
There is no such thing as soul energy. Just because we have a conscience, we try objectify it and try to make it make sense. Humans want their existence to mean something so they imagined an afterlife and souls.

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Re: The 21grams soul

Taoist believes every person has 三魂七魄 (three souls & seven spiritual forms). I hope that the correct the english translation. When a person pass away, the 三魂七魄 is separated. The three souls goes different ways & the seven spiritual forms will vanish. It's quite complicated.

三魂七魄 (three souls & seven spiritual forms), three x seven is twenty one. Is it kind of coincidence with the 21gram soul assumption?

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Re: The 21grams soul

21 grams is also movie made in 2003 starring sean penn. I think it might be similar to what your talking about.

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Re: The 21grams soul

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Taoist believes every person has 三魂七魄 (three souls & seven spiritual forms). I hope that the correct the english translation. When a person pass away, the 三魂七魄 is separated. The three souls goes different ways & the seven spiritual forms will vanish. It's quite complicated.

三魂七魄 (three souls & seven spiritual forms), three x seven is twenty one. Is it kind of coincidence with the 21gram soul assumption?
7 mulitple by 3 gives 21
maybe 一魂 and 一魄 weighs 1g each??

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