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Old 21-08-2007, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LiveScience.com Mon Aug 20, 11:55 AM ET

A new concept for a time machine could possibly enable distant future generations to travel into the past, research now suggests.

Unlike past ideas for time machines, this new concept does not require exotic, theoretical forms of matter. Still, this new idea requires technology far more advanced than anything existing today, and major questions remain as to whether any time machine would ever prove stable enough to enable actual travel back in time.

Time machine researchers often investigate gravity, which essentially arises when matter bends space and time. Time travel research is based on bending space-time so far that time lines actually turn back on themselves to form a loop, technically known as a "closed time-like curve."

"We know that bending does happen all the time, but we want the bending to be strong enough and to take a special form where the lines of time make closed loops," said theoretical physicist Amos Ori at the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa. "We are trying to find out if it is possible to manipulate space-time to develop in such a way."

Many scientists are skeptical as to whether or not time travel is possible. For instance, time machines often are thought to need an exotic form of matter with so-called "negative energy density." Such exotic matter has bizarre properties, including moving in the opposite direction of normal matter when pushed. Such matter could theoretically exist, but if it did, it might be present only in quantities too small for the construction of a time machine.

Ori's latest research suggests time machines are possible without exotic matter, eliminating a barrier to time travel. His work begins with a donut-shaped hole enveloped within a sphere of normal matter.

"We're talking about these closed loops of time, and the simplest kind of closed loops are circles, which is why we have this ring-shaped hole," Ori explained.

Inside this donut-shaped vacuum, space-time could get bent upon itself using focused gravitational fields to form a closed time-like curve. To go back in time, a traveler would race around inside the donut, going further back into the past with each lap.

"The machine is space-time itself," Ori said. "If we were to create an area with a warp like this in space that would enable time lines to close on themselves, it might enable future generations to return to visit our time."

Ori emphasized one significant limitation of this time machine—"it can't be used to travel to a time before the time machine was constructed." His findings are detailed in the Aug. 3 issue of the journal Physical Review D.

A number of obstacles remain, however. The gravitational fields required to make such a closed time-like curve would have to be very strong, "on the order of what you might find close to a black hole," Ori told LiveScience. "We don't have any way of creating such strong gravitational fields today, and we certainly have no way of manipulating any such gravitational fields."

Even if time machines were technically feasible, the gravitational fields involved need to be manipulated in very specific, accurate ways, and Ori said his calculations suggest any time machine could be very unstable, meaning "the tiniest deviations might keep one from working. We need to explore the problem of stability of time machines further."

Theoretical physicist Ken Olum of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., who did not participate in this study, was skeptical concerning how this new model claimed to sidestep prior theoretical objections to time travel.

Still, Olum noted, "It's important if it's right—that there really is some kind of loophole. So this should be scrutinized very closely." The point of such work, he added, was to "expand the bounds of what's possible, what kind of things we can have and what kinds of things we cannot have."

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Old 22-08-2007, 12:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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nothing is impossible. its just that it will take a genius to figure out ways to time travel..

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Old 22-08-2007, 12:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Still sounds abit far-fetched to me now.

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I'm still reading "A brief history of time" by Stephen Hawking. Time and space and gravity.. all very complicated stuff. @_@

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Old 22-08-2007, 12:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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somehow it still sound so.... unreal. like only in movies and story books stuff. i wonder what will happen if there's really a time machine. somehow i feel that it might result in chaos. :p

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Old 22-08-2007, 10:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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if can, i wan return to the past

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wow time travel i would like to visit ancient Egypt or ancient china. look at how the pharoahs look like and the Qing Shi Wang

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It can happen, probably many many years later.
If it's possible, I'd want to return to the past too.

I think being a child and all is less stressful. Being a child need not worry about anything...... How nice!

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unbelieveable but notthing is impossible.

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If i returned to the past, would i be my own dopperganger

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it would be a bit scary if its possible and probably chaotic

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this has always proved to be an interesting topic. but still the question remains. assuming you travel back in time, wont you change things that arent supposed to be change? eg. u went back and perhaps killed the inventor of the time machine by accident. then wouldnt the time machine wouldnt have been invented?? or maybe u landed on george bush and giving him a scar on the face. will it appear to the people in the future that the scar suddenly appears on his face? one show has already tried to show this (butterfly effect) and yea still interesting in its ways.

same goes for you travelling forward, what would happen during the gap?? and if all this is possible its kinda like saying fate dosent exist.

and still just for fun, i would like to travel back in time with today's 4d number ^^

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actually, if there will be really a time machine, then maybe now we would be approached by a person from the future saying that there will be a time machine...

odd isnt it?

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this has always proved to be an interesting topic. but still the question remains. assuming you travel back in time, wont you change things that arent supposed to be change? eg. u went back and perhaps killed the inventor of the time machine by accident. then wouldnt the time machine wouldnt have been invented?? or maybe u landed on george bush and giving him a scar on the face. will it appear to the people in the future that the scar suddenly appears on his face? one show has already tried to show this (butterfly effect) and yea still interesting in its ways.

same goes for you travelling forward, what would happen during the gap?? and if all this is possible its kinda like saying fate dosent exist.

and still just for fun, i would like to travel back in time with today's 4d number ^^
i have to agree. If u were to be sent back into the past, the slightest mistake u do, will change the course of history, thus affecting life at present and because of that, u may not even exist in this world. Theres alot of talking point on these like what mercury said.

Even if the time machine is created, i think it will be kept confidential to the public, imagine the chaos and problem that might surface. I'd for once thought its good to have a time machine so that i can go back in time and prevent the mistakes ive done from happening, but then again, i think i'd rather stay in the present..

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i wish i could go back and change my past...

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i have to agree. If u were to be sent back into the past, the slightest mistake u do, will change the course of history, thus affecting life at present and because of that, u may not even exist in this world. Theres alot of talking point on these like what mercury said.

Even if the time machine is created, i think it will be kept confidential to the public, imagine the chaos and problem that might surface. I'd for once thought its good to have a time machine so that i can go back in time and prevent the mistakes ive done from happening, but then again, i think i'd rather stay in the present..

yeah.. i agree too!!

Imagine you go back to the past and accidentally killed a butterfly.. Maybe by doing so, you have significantly altered the food chain..

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well it sure sounds complicated..but if time could really be reversed, it be quite cool

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