Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore? - Singapore Forums by SGClub.com
Singapore Forums by SGClub.com
Sitemap Contact Us FAQ Singapore Forums by SGClub.com
Home Photos Member List Register Mark Forums Read  
Go Back Home > Personal Interests > Sports Forum » Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

Why aren't you a member of SGClub.com yet??

» Join 130,000+ other members in chatting.
» Make lots of new friends here.
» Keep up-to-date with current events.
» Participate in Club outings.
» Download lots of Free Stuff!

Registration just takes 2mins and is absolutely free so join our community today!

I Want to Choose my Own Personal Nickname Now!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10th May 2008, 09:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
Casper26 is on a distinguished road

 
Casper26's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,345
Join Date: Jul 2007
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

SINGAPORE: "Why not us, too?" Call it a case of sour grapes or plain curiosity, but television and print images of the Olympic torch coursing through neighbouring countries have caused some people here to scratch their heads and ask: Why didn't the flame stop by Singapore?



This has been a point of discussion for readers who felt moved to write in to newspapers, for netizens and even executives from the financial industry.

One from Credit Suisse couldn't resist raising the question during a forum with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong earlier this week. "How come the Olympic torch has bypassed Singapore?" the banking executive asked during the dialogue organised by media company Thomson Reuters.

The instant response from Mr Lee, who had up till then been fielding questions related mostly to economic and political matters, replied: "I don't know."

When the audience's laughter died down, Mr Lee continued: "I do not see any significance in it. I don't think we specifically made a bid for them to come. Neither did we ask them not to come."

If Singapore had made a request, the sacred flame might have landed here.

The media coordinator of the Beijing Torch Relay Centre told Weekend TODAY, the Omani city of Muscat was the first to ask for the torch to visit — and it got its wish.

However, Singapore's cultural paucity and political baggage may have also been behind the flame's no-show here.

Every four years, the tour of the torch is a tremendous marketing exercise for all participants, despite the political protests that often cloud the festivities. Every pit-stop is effectively allowed to show off its cultural equivalents of the Eiffel Tower and Taj Mahal to a global audience, while people cheer on the specially-chosen men and women bearing the Olympian symbol of peace, friendship and fair play.

Hence, the host country puts great thought into creating, what the International Olympic Committee (IOC) calls, the "flavour" of the relay.

Beijing, venue of the 2008 Olympics, opted to display its clout by rolling out a torch relay that crosses so many places that it will make history as the longest ever: 137,000 kilometres over 130 days.

In all, the "Journey of Harmony" passed through nine Asian cities — a route imitating the old Silk Road — before landing last week in Hong Kong and Macau for the domestic leg. It is the norm that the venue's surrounding countries will see more of the flame than will other parts of the world.

This is, after all, only the third time that an Asian city is hosting the prestigious Games — the last one being in 1988 in Seoul.

But Singapore's exclusion from this relay has been somewhat puzzling.

Netizens have noted how the torch travels to Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta, yet "bypasses" Singapore, which lies neatly between Malaysia and Indonesia?

Some Singaporeans also wondered why the host country of the inaugural Youth Olympics in 2010 did not get to receive the flame.

The guessing game has resulted in at least one conspiracy theory floating in cyberspace: It's an intentional snub.

In July 2004, Deputy Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who was sworn in as Prime Minister the following month, visited Taiwan amid protests from China. During this time, according to the online chatter, Beijing was likely planning the relay route (after winning the hosting bid in 2001) and decided to show its displeasure by excluding Singapore from the list of stopovers.

Is it possible that four years on, China is still seething from that episode? As Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew pointed out in a recent interview with Taiwan's Central News Agency, China still has not signed a free trade agreement with Singapore while the Sino-Kiwi deal, which was initiated after Singapore's, has been sealed.

When asked for the key considerations behind the relay route map, the Beijing Torch Relay Centre cited one as a way of "increasing the friendship between Chinese people and the people of the countries along the Silk Road", said the media liaison office in Mandarin.

The relay is often politicised. When Beijing unveiled the Journey of Harmony, analysts zeroed in on the inclusion of two politically sensitive places: Taipei, which split from China 59 years ago; and Tibet, the autonomous region with violent factions calling for a breakaway from China.

Taiwan eventually became the first ever to reject the flame's visit in order to assert its sovereignty.

As for Tibet, when the torch scaled Mount Everest on Thursday, observers read the move as China's attempt to bolster its claims over Tibet.

Seoul, host of the 1988 Games, certainly had political concerns. One of its considerations was a course passing through countries with which Seoul had no diplomatic ties, "to provide an opportunity for improvement of relations with those nations", Seoul said in its official report published online.

Politics aside, perhaps Singapore lacks compelling intrinsic significance for the Olympic flame to visit.

According to official reports that documented the thinking behind the relay routes, the organisers usually rally around four key factors: Economy, efficiency of security, diplomacy and culture.

For the 1988 Seoul Games, the organisers had considered stopping at the "birthplaces of ancient civilisations", a category that 43-year-old Singapore does not fall under.

The only recorded time that Singapore featured on a host country's radar was when Tokyo was planning for the 1964 Olympics. Japan had entertained the idea of blazing an overland Eurasian path by jeep to as far as Singapore, but eventually decided against it because it was "not practical economically or geographically, nor in the time it would require for the relay", said the organisers in their official report.

The Japanese eventually dropped Singapore from its list, which was whittled down to 12 foreign cities.

That included moving from New Delhi to Rangoon, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Hong Kong and Taipei, before ending up in Okinawa for the domestic tour.

But while the flame — now making its rounds in mainland China — didn't come here, Singaporeans certainly aren't excluded from the relay.

Later this month, the Suzhou leg will see five flame-bearers from Singapore: The chiefs of the Republic's three mobile phone companies — SingTel Singapore's Mr Allen Lew, StarHub's Mr Terry Clontz and MobileOne's Mr Neil Montefiore — as well as Channel NewsAsia sports reporter Patwant Singh and 28-year-old engineer Kamal Akhtar.

As these men run through the streets of Suzhou, the city folks may just remember the Singaporean part in creating their Suzhou Industrial Park.

So although China's Olympic torch did not come to Singapore, Singapore went to China. - TODAY/ac

Source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...346790/1/.html

Sponsors:
Casper26 is offline  
Add to Casper26's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2008, 09:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
Casper26 is on a distinguished road

 
Casper26's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,345
Join Date: Jul 2007
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?



A simple thing as passing flames also can be so Political...

Casper26 is offline   Add to Casper26's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2008, 09:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
raph is on a distinguished road

 
raph's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,941
Join Date: May 2007
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

sg too small to be noticed...? hence missing out..?

raph is offline   Add to raph's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2008, 09:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
Cool SGClubber
Usagi-san is on a distinguished road

 
Usagi-san's Avatar
 
Posts: 295
Join Date: Apr 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

I don't really think it matters lar....

__________________
The Black Rabbit
DeviantArt | Multiply | Flickr
Usagi-san is offline   Add to Usagi-san's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2008, 09:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
Casper26 is on a distinguished road

 
Casper26's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,345
Join Date: Jul 2007
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

More like Sg being boycotted or something like that. =\

Casper26 is offline   Add to Casper26's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 10th May 2008, 09:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
Cool SGClubber
Usagi-san is on a distinguished road

 
Usagi-san's Avatar
 
Posts: 295
Join Date: Apr 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Casper26 View Post
More like Sg being boycotted or something like that. =\
That could be one possibility, but you'll never know what's the real circumstances behind it.

__________________
The Black Rabbit
DeviantArt | Multiply | Flickr
Usagi-san is offline   Add to Usagi-san's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 12:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
Huaikong is on a distinguished road

 
Huaikong's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,975
Join Date: Jan 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

really so impt for the torch to cum here??

Huaikong is offline   Add to Huaikong's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Cool SGClubber
sally sally is on a distinguished road

 
Posts: 132
Join Date: Apr 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

lol maybe they find here too expensive, hahahahahahahahahahaha

sally sally is offline   Add to sally sally's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
Addicted SGClubber
hellight will become famous soon enough

 
hellight's Avatar
 
Posts: 910
Join Date: Oct 2007
Likes: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

There can be some possibilies:

- Singapore is too small
- The escape of Mas Selamat has made the impression that Singapore is not a safe country
- Singapore might not want the Olympic Torch to come as to maintain good relationship with other western nations.

__________________
Words cannot express everything.
hellight is offline   Add to hellight's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
guantanamera is on a distinguished road

 
guantanamera's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,023
Join Date: Apr 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

singapore didnt go sent application so dun hav lor

__________________
Everybody is important. Nobody is special.
A man without imagination,is like a bird without wing.
guantanamera is offline   Add to guantanamera's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
New SGClubber
el_cchicck is on a distinguished road

 
el_cchicck's Avatar
 
Posts: 5
Join Date: May 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

One interesting point to note.

This issue of Olympic Torch skipping Singapore has been raised so many times in Forum, The Straits Times BUT no authorities has addressed public's curious queries yet!!

So much for opening more feedback channels!!


el_cchicck is offline   Add to el_cchicck's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
New SGClubber
el_cchicck is on a distinguished road

 
el_cchicck's Avatar
 
Posts: 5
Join Date: May 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

Of course!!
It is important to show support for such an international event.
and it is important for us Singaporeans to be able to contribute to such significant events.
AND it is really important for Singaporean sportsmen and women who are passionate about sports as well as passionate about representing the country.
Furthermore Singapore is hosting the YOG!

Gooo YOG!!


Last edited by el_cchicck; 11th May 2008 at 01:49 PM.
el_cchicck is offline   Add to el_cchicck's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
guantanamera is on a distinguished road

 
guantanamera's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,023
Join Date: Apr 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

singapore hw run run awhile reach the end le

__________________
Everybody is important. Nobody is special.
A man without imagination,is like a bird without wing.
guantanamera is offline   Add to guantanamera's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 11th May 2008, 01:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
hooolahoop has a spectacular aura about

 
hooolahoop's Avatar
 
Posts: 13,912
Join Date: Feb 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

why digging old thread again...

no point discussing 'cos the torch is already.......... went past the himalayas liao...

__________________

*Have fun on SGClub but pls READ the RULES, Report Bad Posts and Give Reputation to Good Ones!*
hooolahoop is offline   Add to hooolahoop's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2008, 03:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
Cool SGClubber
Lenn is on a distinguished road

 
Lenn's Avatar
 
Posts: 68
Join Date: Jan 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

Originally Posted by Usagi-san View Post
That could be one possibility, but you'll never know what's the real circumstances behind it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6968412.stm

"It is the first flexing of muscles by the newly-formed "Quadrilateral Initiative", which brings together the US, Japan, India and Australia.

Singapore also has a small presence in the exercises.

Many analysts see the manoeuvres as efforts by a democratic coalition to "contain" rising Chinese power. "

maybe is this problem!

Perhaps it was the Singapore authorities who dismissed the possibility or declined the invitation because of perceived potential crowd control / demonstrations / public order issues? Let's not accuse the Chinese unfairly since we don't know what happened behind closed doors?


Last edited by Lenn; 15th May 2008 at 04:27 AM.
Lenn is offline   Add to Lenn's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2008, 11:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
elainesy is on a distinguished road

 
elainesy's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,135
Join Date: Jan 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

somre reason, which the gov dun wan say how we guess also no use..lol..some ppl like to tok abt old new mah..

__________________

Funny Joke Online
elainesy is offline   Add to elainesy's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2008, 12:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
fathernature is a jewel in the roughfathernature is a jewel in the rough

 
fathernature's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,828
Join Date: Dec 2007
Likes: 19
Liked 28 Times in 26 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

aya. see other country also dun like sg political ppl

__________________
eh eh eh !!! =O
+ rep sia! If i help u lurhs (^_^)V

http://soundcloud.com/fathernature
www.youtube.com/xiiaoxuuesheng
fathernature is offline   Add to fathernature's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2008, 04:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
Shyraiiyann will become famous soon enough

 
Shyraiiyann's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,566
Join Date: Nov 2006
Likes: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

it shouldnt come lor.
alot of problem wan.
look at other countries.

__________________
FOR YOU I BLEED MYSELF DRY
Shyraiiyann is offline   Add to Shyraiiyann's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2008, 09:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
Experienced SGClubber
fathernature is a jewel in the roughfathernature is a jewel in the rough

 
fathernature's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,828
Join Date: Dec 2007
Likes: 19
Liked 28 Times in 26 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

ya lor expecally the irritating guards

__________________
eh eh eh !!! =O
+ rep sia! If i help u lurhs (^_^)V

http://soundcloud.com/fathernature
www.youtube.com/xiiaoxuuesheng
fathernature is offline   Add to fathernature's Reputation Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2008, 09:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
Cool SGClubber
liewluqi is on a distinguished road

 
Posts: 176
Join Date: May 2008
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gender:

Re: Why didn't the Olympic torch stop in Singapore?

singapore host the run then other bigger country will say why they nv tio to host liao.. then fight agn -_-

liewluqi is offline   Add to liewluqi's Reputation Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suggestion for Olympic torch bearer Skyguy SGClub Cafe 14 5th May 2008 02:05 AM
China's security runners not welcome in Japan for Olympic torch relay OleoCookie International & Singapore News 3 14th April 2008 11:42 AM
Anti China protesters try to wrestle Olympic torch off BBC presenter Konnie Huq ...... sgelite International & Singapore News 9 7th April 2008 04:11 PM
Three times lucky for Singapore's Olympic torch relay runner Voodoo Vince Sports Forum 0 13th January 2008 07:43 AM
Olympic Torch Relay Route, strange that KL, Bangkok, Jakarta all have, why no S'pore? newcomer International & Singapore News 0 6th May 2007 10:23 PM

» Sponsors
Watch Free Movies Online
Celebrity Gossip
Food Delivery

» Facebook Fans
» What's Going On?
Title, Username, & Date
Heated dialogue between food delivery riders and Lam Pin Min over e-scooter ban on...
Do you know?
Elderly man in Yishun begs for money to see doctor, ends up spending it on lottery tickets
18 Singaporeans injured as bridge collapses in Batam's Montigo Resorts Nongsa
Catering firm’s licence suspended after 29 people fell ill: SFA, MOH
Inspirational Songs
Planet Earth
Change in security team at Eight Riversuites condo 'unrelated' to Ramesh Erramalli...
Arrogant Indian expat abusing a local security guard in Singapore
Tofu manufacturer fined for hygiene lapses including 'widespread' cockroach infestation
It's raining cats and turtles: Hundreds of pets kept in high-rise buildings escape and...
Simple basic video guide tomassaging your cat
Money faced LTA lost touch, squandered S$4.7 + million on useless white elephant.
E-scooter rider going at 28km/h at void deck injures man’s leg, gets 6 weeks’ jail
Hepatitis E infections surge in Singapore, virus found in raw pork liver: SGH
Singapore MOH/HPB Healthier Choice Symbols are FAKE NEWS/ misleading.
Licence of AG (Global) Events Catering suspended over cockroach infestations and other...
[Hard Truth] 69.9% of Singaporeans are more stupid than dogs and monkeys.
[Poor Health] Karma strikes ex-Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan hard.
Christianity and Buddhism have more in common than differences: (moderation and restr
Featured Photos
by marisoljames322
· · ·
Member Galleries
20359 photos
13619 comments
by marisoljames322
· · ·
Member Galleries
20359 photos
13619 comments
by pdsubbu
· · ·
Member Galleries
20359 photos
13619 comments
by Vikas Dhar
· · ·
Photography
35 photos
36 comments
by aaudreygan
· · ·
Guy Photos
1581 photos
946 comments
by aaudreygan
· · ·
Girl Photos
4351 photos
28608 comments
by a8paris
· · ·
Guy Photos
1581 photos
946 comments
by a8paris
· · ·
Guy Photos
1581 photos
946 comments
by aaricia
· · ·
Girl Photos
4351 photos
28608 comments
by aaricia
· · ·
Girl Photos
4351 photos
28608 comments

 

All times are GMT +8. The time now is 02:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright© 2004-2013 SGClub.com. All rights reserved.