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Old 10th January 2011, 08:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why god never reveal himself?

In this world, not this world doesn’t have god just because we can’t see it with our eyes. But just that god doesn’t want to show him/herself is to prevent harassment. If humans really see a god, they will rush to the temples & etc. To bug the god everyday for lottery & etc. Because we know god has magic powers to do anything. Since if a person got somebody to spoon feed him/her. He/she will lose the purpose of life & own ability to survive on his/her own.

God will only bless kind & hardworking people secretly.

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Re: Why god never reveal himself?

thats what you think.

more than 1 billions poor souls are trying hard to survie each day and working hard to feed their family, are they getting bless?

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thats what you think.

more than 1 billions poor souls are trying hard to survie each day and working hard to feed their family, are they getting bless?
No choice, it is part of the game of life.

God-> GM

Humans-> Players


In any game, we poor or low level. Is our own problem, the GM won't lv up for you or giving you free items. If not, this game will be no fun & no point of playing.

Hacking the game->Ban

Doing crimes in real life-> Jail



The following is what a stomper said:

due to destiny, there will always be poor ppl and rich ppl in this world..... just like there're shadows and lights. Both will exists no matter what we do.

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No choice, it is part of the game of life.

God-> GM

Humans-> Players


In any game, we poor or low level. Is our own problem, the GM won't lv up for you or giving you free items. If not, this game will be no fun & no point of playing.

Hacking the game->Ban

Doing crimes in real life-> Jail



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due to destiny, there will always be poor ppl and rich ppl in this world..... just like there're shadows and lights. Both will exists no matter what we do.
God is treating our life like a game?
Then we are taking our life too seriously

anyway you make no sense when u say God will only bless kind & hardworking people secretly. and No choice, it is part of the game of life.

so god not really bless kind and hardworking people then.

if you think that you are living in a game of your god, i feel that you are living your life wrong.

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Originally Posted by squiggle View Post
In this world, not this world doesn’t have god just because we can’t see it with our eyes. But just that god doesn’t want to show him/herself is to prevent harassment. If humans really see a god, they will rush to the temples & etc. To bug the god everyday for lottery & etc. Because we know god has magic powers to do anything. Since if a person got somebody to spoon feed him/her. He/she will lose the purpose of life & own ability to survive on his/her own.

God will only bless kind & hardworking people secretly.
I don't think so. Assuming that this "God" exists, he likely wouldn't show himself because he'd get sued.

Earthquakes, Hurricanes, Tsunamis cause alot of deaths and property destruction.
People are suing everyone these days, hell if i recall correctly a robber sued the homeowner for hitting him too hard or something.

Also @ the "God will only bless kind & hardworking people secretly."
I think that would be sort of silly. Apparently God causes random secret blessings that can never be proved.

Also, noticed that almost every pope never does anything interesting at all, but when he dies there are suddenly witnesses who can swear on the bible that he miraculously cured them of some strange disease?

I'm just waiting for benedict to die so i can see what sort of silly miracle he supposedly performed.


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No choice, it is part of the game of life.

God-> GM

Humans-> Players


In any game, we poor or low level. Is our own problem, the GM won't lv up for you or giving you free items. If not, this game will be no fun & no point of playing.

Hacking the game->Ban

Doing crimes in real life-> Jail



The following is what a stomper said:

due to destiny, there will always be poor ppl and rich ppl in this world..... just like there're shadows and lights. Both will exists no matter what we do.
Ah, but in real games, You have actual proof that the GM exists. Therefore this situation cannot be compared with games.

Also, if you compare Dark and Light, you have to admit then, that the Light is not All powerful, because without Dark there would be no light.
Also, God would NEVER be able to defeat satan then, because if he defeats Satan, then there would only be Light. But if there is no Darkness, how do you know it is actually Light?

There's an interesting quote from Epicurus.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

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Also, since this thread is about God, it doesn't really belong in this section, it should be moved to the Mature Forums.

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if 2000 years ago God came to earth and walked among men and healed all who came to him, and yet still so many did not believe, what makes us think that if He appears now, everyone will believe?

there wont be any difference at all...

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if 2000 years ago God came to earth and walked among men and healed all who came to him, and yet still so many did not believe, what makes us think that if He appears now, everyone will believe?

there wont be any difference at all...
What makes you say that?
There's no evidence that he actually came down and healed people.
The only things that say he existed is a book called the bible, and some old papers.

These days, there's the internet, cameras and other stuff.

Heck, if God appeared to me one day i'd go on facebook right away and spread the good news around!

P.S: Don't you feel its kind of selfish that he supposedly came down, walked among men and only healed a select few? Also why didn't he heal any amputees?

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He didnt heal a select few... He healed all who came to Him =)

Were there amputees among them? I believe so. Did Jesus heal them too? Of course, otherwise it would say that only amputees were left out.

In the past, when Jesus did all those wonderful things, the pharisees still crucified him... Won't people still do it today? Wont they all call it a "digital remastering" even if it was captured on camera? The worst would be from some christians... they'll say He might be a false Christ...

If you didnt believe without seeing, even with seeing you will not believe

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He didnt heal a select few... He healed all who came to Him =)

Were there amputees among them? I believe so. Did Jesus heal them too? Of course, otherwise it would say that only amputees were left out.

In the past, when Jesus did all those wonderful things, the pharisees still crucified him... Won't people still do it today? Wont they all call it a "digital remastering" even if it was captured on camera? The worst would be from some christians... they'll say He might be a false Christ...

If you didnt believe without seeing, even with seeing you will not believe
Yes, and that is a select few. He didn't heal EVERYONE.

In the past, when Jesus supposedly did all those wonderful things, the Pharisees crucified him ONLY because they were allowed to do as they wished, the romans did not interfere with whom the pharisees chose to kill.

Honestly, if Jesus really appeared, i would believe. I really would. But currently, there is simply no proof.

An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence.

All they have to prove their claim is a book which they claimed was written by God.

If someone claimed they were jesus and tried to get me to follow him, i'd slap him.

However if they showed genuine proof by causing something impossible to happen (Like pigs sprouting wings and taking off), i'd believe.

With the digital age, word would spread amazingly quick and many would come to see the miracle happening.
Assuming that it DID happen, there would be thousands of people defending him, ready to lay down their lives for him.

Think about it. If Jesus appeared in New York or some other faraway place, wouldn't you fly all the way there to see him? And possibly defend him if he's threatened?

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What about people in Africa who don't even have the chance to make anything out of themselves? They die to starvation, poor hygiene. Why does god make them suffer fruitlessly? Don't tell me it's a test, they are born into virtually hellish conditions with no hope in sight.

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To be honest, if Jesus exists and came back to earth i'd think that he would be pretty disappointed in the church.

All the people killing each other in his name, all the splits in communities(Protestants vs the other branches etc), all this using his name to make money.

Look at the televangelists. (Mike Murdock) People using his name to get gullible fools to send him money.

Look at the churches. Masses all day. You get to eat a piece of wafer, and you give them $1-50 bucks(Usually) as donations to random other churches or other "Good" causes.

Look at all the money spent to build silly stone houses so you can listen to a "Priest" talk, and to compare clothes with other parishioners when that money could be better spent on food or clothing for the poor in 3rd world countries.

Didn't jesus say in the bible that where one or more are gathered in my name, there i will be?

I used to be a devout catholic once, you know.

It seems to me that the Church are like the pharisees.

Sticking their fingers into politics where they aren't wanted.
Using Jesus's name to make money.

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Originally Posted by hansheng View Post
God is treating our life like a game?
Then we are taking our life too seriously

anyway you make no sense when u say God will only bless kind & hardworking people secretly. and No choice, it is part of the game of life.

so god not really bless kind and hardworking people then.

if you think that you are living in a game of your god, i feel that you are living your life wrong.
Still, we can never have the real answer forever.

In life, there is no right or wrong when comes to viewing things. We all have our own views about it.

Our qualification level can be treated as combat level like games, the higher you are. The more people will respect you. Same concept

You can view life like a marathon, game, roller coaster & etc. We all still have to go through together education, work, illnesses, death & etc. But we all turning out to have our own dreams & beliefs.

If god made us all are the same, like all having IQ 200 & etc. Nobody will then want to become a sweeper & etc. Might also will fight for leadership, since all are smart & want to stand out from the crowd to lead.

Anything that we cannot explain by science, we will eventually pulling magic in (god, ghosts, demons & etc). Either is god create this world or science create god. We will never know again.

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Re: Why god never reveal himself?

TS to answer your question is simple. because god does not exist.

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What about people in Africa who don't even have the chance to make anything out of themselves? They die to starvation, poor hygiene. Why does god make them suffer fruitlessly? Don't tell me it's a test, they are born into virtually hellish conditions with no hope in sight.
they dont even know who is god how are they going to believe in god? how can god help them?

life is unfair, but if there is god, god is unfair

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TS to answer your question is simple. because god does not exist.
If you say so, why people bothers to go to temples, churches & etc to pray. Why would people want to waste their time to build, pray or donating money for all these?

Nobody in this world will do anything, that doesn't have meaning or gains.

There's also with karma, what you do. Is what you will get in return.

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Still, we can never have the real answer forever.

In life, there is no right or wrong when comes to viewing things. We all have our own views about it.

Our qualification level can be treated as combat level like games, the higher you are. The more people will respect you. Same concept

You can view life like a marathon, game, roller coaster & etc. We all still have to go through together education, work, illnesses, death & etc. But we all turning out to have our own dreams & beliefs.

If god made us all are the same, like all having IQ 200 & etc. Nobody will then want to become a sweeper & etc. Might also will fight for leadership, since all are smart & want to stand out from the crowd to lead.

Anything that we cannot explain by science, we will eventually pulling magic in (god, ghosts, demons & etc). Either is god create this world or science create god. We will never know again.
then why bother to explain so much when the answer is we will never know?

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TS to answer your question is simple. because god does not exist.
Yeah right! And this Universe came to existence just by itself?!?!?!?

There was a very beautiful garden full of fruits of all sorts, a thief went there planning to get as many fruits as he could.

By the time he had filled his huge sack and tied it up nicely the farmer and guards caught him red handed and asked him what he was doing?

He answered, "I was passing by, suddenly very strong wind started to blow, earth started to shake and all the fruits fell down and automatically went into my sack. After that the knot automatically got tied and the sack full of fruit was mounted on my shoulders on its own!


I guess similar thing happened to the universe and every thing fell into its place just nicely and the greatest thing that happened automatically was the creation of man, and the same men now use sgclub and discuss

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Ya, even if there is no such thing as god. Those god that people currently worshiping are those great people who died & contributed something to the people in the world. Could be us just worshiping those great died people & we want to be like them or something. These group of great died people, we addressed them as god.

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Originally Posted by OmerSaeed View Post
Yeah right! And this Universe came to existence just by itself?!?!?!?

There was a very beautiful garden full of fruits of all sorts, a thief went there planning to get as many fruits as he could.

By the time he had filled his huge sack and tied it up nicely the farmer and guards caught him red handed and asked him what he was doing?

He answered, "I was passing by, suddenly very strong wind started to blow, earth started to shake and all the fruits fell down and automatically went into my sack. After that the knot automatically got tied and the sack full of fruit was mounted on my shoulders on its own!


I guess similar thing happened to the universe and every thing fell into its place just nicely and the greatest thing that happened automatically was the creation of man, and the same men now use sgclub and discuss
If it can be assumed that 'God' can be acausal, then i don't see why not we can just directly assume the Universe is acausal.

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Originally Posted by squiggle View Post
No choice, it is part of the game of life.

God-> GM

Humans-> Players


In any game, we poor or low level. Is our own problem, the GM won't lv up for you or giving you free items. If not, this game will be no fun & no point of playing.

Hacking the game->Ban

Doing crimes in real life-> Jail



The following is what a stomper said:

due to destiny, there will always be poor ppl and rich ppl in this world..... just like there're shadows and lights. Both will exists no matter what we do.
Now, the GM can self-ban because of his miracles which break his own rules that he had made.It is rather equivalent to hacking.


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Originally Posted by OmerSaeed View Post
Yeah right! And this Universe came to existence just by itself?!?!?!?

There was a very beautiful garden full of fruits of all sorts, a thief went there planning to get as many fruits as he could.

By the time he had filled his huge sack and tied it up nicely the farmer and guards caught him red handed and asked him what he was doing?

He answered, "I was passing by, suddenly very strong wind started to blow, earth started to shake and all the fruits fell down and automatically went into my sack. After that the knot automatically got tied and the sack full of fruit was mounted on my shoulders on its own!


I guess similar thing happened to the universe and every thing fell into its place just nicely and the greatest thing that happened automatically was the creation of man, and the same men now use sgclub and discuss
So, according to your logic, the earth cannot come into existence by itself. Therefore according to that, God cannot simply exist as well. So SOMETHING must have created God.

Nothing = Nothing, Something = Something.

Therefore, there was a God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God that created God and so on.

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