[Sky_UAG]

Originally Posted by Sgblubber

might not really good... i guess..

firstly u might not get the price secondly even if u have the price u might not get ppl to buy it too

Yes, that's true but as professional we eliminate all the risk factors of the wine itself that why our wines that we bring in is all the top quality example first growth wines, whereby our clients if they would like to liquidate thier assets we have 2 kind of exit strategy Distributors & Auction houses so there is no way we do not have ppl buying the wines. You can see yrself in Carrefour Suntec there is a lock up wine section. You can see ppl buying wines up to a $1000 a bottle.

So as wine mature, it appreciate in value.

[Sky_UAG]

Take example our SG celeb "Irene Ang" she is a wine lover herself and she owns quite a big assets of Fine Wine Investment portfolio and doing very well with it.

I'm just curious to those ppl giving negative remarks on Fine Wine Investment either they dont have any assets or they dont understand the concept of Fine Wine Investment which i'm sure most of you believe it!

[djchris]

Like I said. You are just painting the beautiful picture of wine investing without sharing the risks involved. I have nothing against you as a person, but I do have concerns about the direction of your posts.

I love wine btw, I drink my fair share and keep some at home, like the Château Lafite Rothschild 2003 Bordeaux. But I know that I don't know enough of it, so I am choosing not investing in wine.

Why don't you share with the members here, the risks involved in wine investment and what they should be aware about when investing in wine?

[Sky_UAG]

Originally Posted by djchris

Like I said. You are just painting the beautiful picture of wine investing without sharing the risks involved. I have nothing against you as a person, but I do have concerns about the direction of your posts.

I love wine btw, I drink my fair share and keep some at home, like the Château Lafite Rothschild 2003 Bordeaux. But I know that I don't know enough of it, so I am choosing not investing in wine.

Why don't you share with the members here, the risks involved in wine investment and what they should be aware about when investing in wine?

Hey Thanks, bro..
Apologize if i say something wrong here..

Yes honestly there is advantages and disadvantages... why not i write it down below.
Thanks for bringing up the question bro!

the wine you are currently having is one of the best first growth wines.

[Sky_UAG]

DISADVANTAGES OF INVESTING IN WINE

When the market isn't in the middle of strong bull run, as it currently is, wine becomes a real stock picker's market, which generally requires a great deal of expertise, understanding and knowledge. In other words it's very easy to make some expensive mistakes unless you know what you are doing. For instance, the value of wines like Valandraud, once the darling of the market in the 90's has plummeted in the last few years.

It's well worth remembering that wine prices can go down as well as up. Even as the market is generally moving up, particular wines will certainly move down.

There are no dividend payments and there are the costs of storage and selling which have to be factored in. Both eat into profitability

Some wines may not turn out to as good as initially predicted. Once in bottle, wines are frequently re-rated. A negative re-assessment from 98 points to 94 may well result in a fall in value. This is another reason why you should only buy investment grade wine from reputable merchants or proven investment specialists.

ADVANTAGES OF INVESTING IN WINE

The underlying principles of wine investment boil down to the laws of supply and demand. On the supply side, there are relatively few investment grade labels, whose production levels remain more or less fixed. On the demand side, there are a growing number of high net worth individuals around the world seeking to own and/or drink these wines. Ergonomically, the only way to ease the pressure is for prices to go up.

Fine Wine Investment has many advantages over other forms of investments. It benefits from being stable, easily realizable, consumable and at low risk. Above all else, due to decreasing availability, there is ever increasing demand. Globally recongnised as one of the steadiest form of investment, it is generally unaffected by recession, interest rate changes and stock market fluctuations.

Fine Wine is easily stored and generally increases in quality the longer it is left cellared. As people's perception of this form of investment grows, so has its popularity and demand. People do not like to discuss their retirement plans or insurance premiums amongst friends around the dinner table, but they do like to talk about the value of their wine.

Only 1% of the world's wine production is investment grade wine. As with the oldest rule in any Economics textbook, the demand and supply sets the price. This rule works entirely to the investors' advantage. It becomes more imminent when the Fine Wine approaches its maturity, a time deemed by many as the prime spot to indulge in it. The demands of these wines are stemmed from an increasing number of collectors; mainly from London, Singapore, China, America and Russia as well as Japan and Hong Kong. As a bottle of Fine Wine ages, it is highly sought after, which drives the demand up further. In an industry where demand usually exceeds supply, fine wine never fails to attract mobs of investment savvy audience

Investment grade wine is also become more desirable and therefore more valuable over time. The wine ages and comes into its drinking window, it begins to be consumed making it even more rare, which in turn adds yet more upward pressure on prices.

Wine is less volatile than stocks and shares, making it a less risky investment. Moreover it is not highly correlated with the stock market, which makes it attractive to investors looking to diversify a portfolio. And if the market does crash, you can at least take solace in drinking up your position.

[djchris]

Originally Posted by Sky_UAG

Hey Thanks, bro..
Apologize if i say something wrong here..

Yes honestly there is advantages and disadvantages... why not i write it down below.
Thanks for bringing up the question bro!

the wine you are currently having is one of the best first growth wines.

No problem.

I only have a bottle of that, given by a friend. Waiting for the right occassion to drink it.

[montana]

what is the max return?

[Sky_UAG]

Originally Posted by montana

what is the max return?

Historically, returns are estimated 8-12% per year. If you hold a portfolio for 3-5 years it may go up to 12-40% depends on what kinda of wines your portfolio hold.

3 category of wines.
Blue Chip Wines - First released in 1991, Langton’s Classification of Australian Wine is now a benchmark of Australian wine investment. The Classification is a ranking of Australia’s best performing wines based on market demand and vintages made.

Cult Wines - Cult wines are often seen as trophy wines to be collected or as investments to be held rather than consumed. Because price is often seen as an indicator of quality, high prices often increase the desirability of such wines. Such wines include, for example, some First Growths from Bordeaux, Romanée Conti and La Tache from Burgundy, Screaming Eagle from California, Penfolds Grange from Australia, and Galardi Terra di Lavoro from Italy, Cult wines are those for which dedicated groups of committed enthusiasts will pay large sums of money.

Emerging Wines - Emerging wines are wines that attract strong market interest but are not yet classified. Factors such as reputation, consumer demand, regional definition and limited production all play a part.

[Sky_UAG]

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Why should I choose Fine Wine Investment as my alternative choice?
Unlike other forms of investments, wine has a unique ability to grow in value as time goes by, provided with proper guidance.

What are the advantages of investing in wines?
Fine Wine Investment has consistently outperformed other forms of common investments. Furthermore it is tax free, has a worldwide demand and it is low risk.

What are the risks involved in investing wines?
All investments have their own form of risks, likewise wines. Natural disasters, improper storage, bad maintenance of wine and getting the wrong wine from unadvisable vintage will result in depreciation of wine.

Can all regions of wines be invested?
No. Only 1-5% of wines in the global market are advisable to invest. Some examples are Australian, French, California & Italian, but not all wines from these regions are well-commented.

Who gives the rating of wines?
Wine critics internationally like Robert Parker Jr., James Halliday and Jeremy Oliver. They will give comments & ratings in accordance to a standard formula that is used by wine critics.

What determines the appreciation of my investments?
a) Supply over demand. b) Production of wine from vintage. c) Reputation and past track records of wineries.

What is the average return of investment?
Generally ranging from 8-12% per annum depending on the types of wine you invested. Some wines have the capability of profiting beyond the percentage mentioned.

Where will my wines be stored? Overseas or locally?
All wines will be stored locally in a bonded warehouse with the right temperature between 10 – 15 degrees celsius, humidity of approximate of 60% and insurance coverage for any leakage or brokerage of wine.

[jumper]

Please read this before you part with your hard earn money.

http://www.investdrinks.org/

[m3lting]

actually such investments are quite safe but you have to choose the right company!~

[Sky_UAG]

The link you provide is not a professional web, anyway the returns that relate in that web is only a year.. recommendation of high returns the period would be like 3-5 years... Look at other proper web or articles online.. Wine investment generally give good return for a certian of years not a year if its a year ppl would have long time invest thier money in it, its like putting your funds in a bank for example...

[zhiz22]

wahhh


sure earn ah

[inle]

jux like to check if tis thread s the same as the wine inv thread tat was posted previously????

for me, inv got their risks n correspondin returns....
returns corespond to the exposed risks....
i think there s no free lunch in tis world...

[Kaze.YonGMinG]

THE GOLDEN RULES STAYS!!!!

HIGH RISK HIGH RETURN
LOW RISK LOW RETURN

end of story

[zhiz22]

Originally Posted by Kazehana

THE GOLDEN RULES STAYS!!!!

HIGH RISK HIGH RETURN
LOW RISK LOW RETURN

end of story

agree but if you do fund comparison, there are funds that does better with less risk as compared to similar peer funds.

[inle]

Originally Posted by zhiz22

agree but if you do fund comparison, there are funds that does better with less risk as compared to similar peer funds.

actually if u r talkin about UTs,
risks can b reduced by managin the inv portfolio n applyin some fundamentals of inv strategies to max out potential returns while reducin the risks....

on the long run, the funds will perform about the same....
i believe when u do comparison, u r takin into of short term, yr to yr basis ya....
personally, consienstent s actually the key....
unless u 1 2 do speculations....

[jumper]

Originally Posted by Sky_UAG

Dont just talk rot la.. try it than post your experience with it.. if it true then u win..

I'm sure if you go with the correct company you will get great returns...

So please do not talk rot about ppl's business unless u want to be a loser for yourself~

Get a life bitch!

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Losers like you can't debate objectively and substantiate your case, resorting to lowering yourself to name calling, which is so juvenile.

You expect people to trust their money with you for investments? You are way put of my league boy.

[Ray Ang]

it depend, first u must really do it hand on, not to trust ur partner.most wine are from australia,france denmark. you definitely must do research, there are also cheap table wine to expensive vintage one, nowasday youngsters go for beer or alcoholic ones. for wine there are a huge ranges so the investments will cost you dearly if you fail.

[inle]

Originally Posted by jumper

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Losers like you can't debate objectively and substantiate your case, resorting to lowering yourself to name calling, which is so juvenile.

You expect people to trust their money with you for investments? You are way put of my league boy.

agreed on tat....
but tat will hurt a lot ya...