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Old 17th October 2015, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Woman: Married SCDF Lt-Col pestered me to be his lover


TNP ILLUSTRATION: TEOH YI CHIE

Woman alleges married SCDF Lt-Col kept texting her "I want to have you" and when she refused, he made her life difficult

Oct 17, 2015 6:00am
By RONALD LOH


It started out as an innocent conversation about work.

But the more they communicated over WhatsApp, the more daring the high-ranking civil servant allegedly became.

First, the married man allegedly asked her out on a date, then to be his lover. Or as he called it, "friends with benefits".

Fed up with his advances, she made a police report. The police are now investigating the matter involving a Lieutenant-Colonel in the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF).

The married father allegedly hit on the woman, who was working for an events management firm that had won a tender for an exhibition he was overseeing. The New Paper understands that she joined the firm after it won the tender.

The 28-year-old woman, whom we shall call Pamela, met TNP last week to give her side of the story.



She said she had since resigned from the company because she felt it had not supported her sufficiently when she had complained about the alleged harassment.

Showing TNP her police report, she claimed that after she repeatedly turned down the officer's advances, he allegedly made her life difficult by bad-mouthing her to her former employer.

Pamela said she had joined the firm in May, shortly after it was awarded the tender to organise an exhibition that cost over $1 million.

She met the officer after she was assigned to help with the exhibition's events and programming.

Her first impression was that he was helpful and professional, though occasionally cocky, she said.

She showed TNP the transcript (at right) of their alleged WhatsApp conversation between Aug 5 and Sept 3.

She said: "It was a work-centred conversation at first. I asked him for directions to the Immigrations Checkpoint Authority because we were doing a video production recce there and he helped me."

GOT PERSONAL

Over the next few weeks, he asked her personal questions, such as her qualifications and family background, before allegedly saying on Aug 21 that he wished to date her.

Pamela, who has been working in the industry for nine years, claimed she was not surprised at first.

She said: "In our industry, a date usually refers to a networking session where I take my colleagues and he takes his. But from his repeated attempts to ask me out one-on-one, it became quite clear he was looking for something more."

Pamela claimed she tried to avoid his advances each time, but he persisted. For example, she would change the topic and talk about work, or ignore his messages when he allegedly asked her to be his lover.

She said she knew he was married.

He allegedly grew more daring and asked for sexual favours, such as them "making out".

She said: "I felt very offended. He even texted me 'you are hot' during a meeting, moments before I was about to do a presentation."

When asked why she did not reject his advances outright, she said: "I was in a very difficult position. I had to maintain a positive relationship and not burn bridges because we were still working together."

After spurning him several times, she thought he had got the hint.

But he then made her life difficult, she alleged. "He told my boss he did not understand my part because I was not comprehensive in my work. But how could that be when everyone else on the team understood?

"He also told others that I was the one who kept pestering him and that I was irritating."

Pamela claimed that when she told her superiors about the incident, they dismissed her claims and told her to carry on with her work.

She said one of them even suggested that she go out with the officer.

They also tried to persuade her not to report the matter before the project was completed.

"They asked me to hold off until they got the signature for the quotation. That was why I left. The firm was not taking care of my welfare," said Pamela.

She quit in early September and recounted her experience to TNP earlier this month in the hope that his actions would be brought to light.

"Who knows which other girl he'll prey on next. I hope it stops with me," she said.

TNP approached the firm's assistant general manager (AGM) and told her about Pamela's allegations about the firm. The AGM said she had offered Pamela professional advice, such as to ignore the officer, and added that she could not comment further as it was a personal matter between the two parties.

When TNP contacted the SCDF officer over the phone last week, he hung up when he realised it was a reporter on the line.

A police spokesman confirmed that a report had been made and said investigations are ongoing.

An SCDF spokesman told TNP that it expects its officers to uphold exemplary standards of discipline and personal conduct.

He said: "We take a serious view of any alleged misconduct on the part of our officers. We are unable to comment further as the case is currently being investigated by the police."

In our industry, a date usually refers to a networking session where I take my colleagues and he takes his. But from his repeated attempts to ask me out one-on-one, it became quite clear he was looking for something more.

- 'Pamela', who has been working in the industry for nine years

EXCERPTS FROM TRANSCRIPT

AUG 23, 2015


12:06pm Him: I am attracted to you

12:06pm Her: In what ways?

12:06pm Him: Physically

12:06pm Her: And do u think it's right?

12:06pm Him: I don't see any problem

12:06pm Her: I'm keen in being friends

12:07pm Her: Further on. I'm not sure

12:07pm Him: We can try

12:07pm Him: It doesn't have to be binding

12:08pm Him: I'll not ask for commitments

12:09pm Her: Do u do this very often?

12:10pm Him: ?

12:10pm Her: Erm as in. Telling women these? What you're telling me now?

12:10pm Him: Haha

12:11pm Him: I am keen on you, not every other woman

AUG 27, 2015

2:09pm Him: When can we make out?

2:09pm Her: u getting more and more daring. From dates to make out. And every time I talk to u about work u change topic

2:11pm Him: I want to have you. That has not changed

2:15pm Her: u seriously not scare of getting in trouble ah

2:23pm Him: Nope

2:24pm Him: I want to have you badly

2:24pm Him: Please?

2:27pm Him: Dear, I want an affirmative consent

2:28pm Him: Ok?

2:49pm Him: We meet today

2:49pm Him: I want to have you

AUG 29, 2015

9:21pm Him: One last time... really no?

9:21pm Her: What one last time?

9:22pm Her: Why u so random? Suddenly ask me one last time?

9:22pm Him: Asking you for the last time

9:22pm Her: Asking me what? Be together with u?

9:23pm Him: Lovers

9:23pm Her: So if you're asking now... then nope

9:24pm Him: Ok

9:24pm Her: There's always another relationship call friends. If u can Accept that

9:25pm Him: We already are friends

9:25pm Her: if u can accept that. Then if u asked me dinner I will

... a few texts later...

9:26pm Him: Lovers are better than friends

9:26pm Her: Ur wife will kill me

9:27pm Him: Rubbish

9:27pm Her: What rubbish?

9:27pm Her: I don't want to get into trouble

9:28pm Him: Won't have trouble

9:28pm Him: Friends with benefits?

9:28pm Her: Do I look like a women that would really sleep around?

9:28pm Her: Or a women who don't respect myself?

... a few texts later...


9:32pm Her: Haiz. When u tell me such things u want me. Have u thought of how your wife will feel if she knows about it?

9:32pm Her: And would u get into trouble if someone knows about it?

9:32pm Her: Why risk ur career and marriage just cos u want me?

AUG 30, 2015

11:09am Him: I am ignoring them

11:09am Her: Why!

11:09am Him: Because I am determined to have you!

Lawyers: Unlikely to involve corruption

The alleged incident between the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) officer and the woman is unlikely to involve corruption, criminal lawyers told The New Paper.

Hilborne Law director Rajan Supramaniam, who has been in practice for 15 years, said there did not seem to be any gratification involved.

He said: "To prove there is corruption, you have to prove that there is gratification extended as a result of the personal favour asked of the woman."

He added that the officer could face criminal harassment charges if he had intentionally annoyed her with calls or if he had stalked her.

If so, she could file a magistrate's complaint, Mr Supramaniam said.

"Morally, what he did may be wrong, though," he added.

Mr Ravinderpal Singh, of Kalco Law, said a civil suit seems to be the most likely recourse.

"On the face of it, there does not seem to be anything criminal unless he sent some lewd messages, and it also depends on how the recipient took it."

What will likely happen to the SCDF officer?

Lawyer Gloria James-Civetta said that government agencies usually conduct internal investigations before taking any action deemed appropriate if there is any wrongdoing.

Affected officers may be suspended pending the outcome.

When the investigations are concluded, officers found to have behaved inappropriately may be suspended for a period of time.

"In some cases, they may even be terminated," said Mrs James-Civetta.

- See more at: http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore-new....Ul7E87Bp.dpuf

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Woman: Married SCDF Lt-Col pestered me to be his lover


TNP ILLUSTRATION: TEOH YI CHIE

Woman alleges married SCDF Lt-Col kept texting her "I want to have you" and when she refused, he made her life difficult

Oct 17, 2015 6:00am
By RONALD LOH


It started out as an innocent conversation about work.

But the more they communicated over WhatsApp, the more daring the high-ranking civil servant allegedly became.

First, the married man allegedly asked her out on a date, then to be his lover. Or as he called it, "friends with benefits".

Fed up with his advances, she made a police report. The police are now investigating the matter involving a Lieutenant-Colonel in the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF).

The married father allegedly hit on the woman, who was working for an events management firm that had won a tender for an exhibition he was overseeing. The New Paper understands that she joined the firm after it won the tender.

The 28-year-old woman, whom we shall call Pamela, met TNP last week to give her side of the story.



She said she had since resigned from the company because she felt it had not supported her sufficiently when she had complained about the alleged harassment.

Showing TNP her police report, she claimed that after she repeatedly turned down the officer's advances, he allegedly made her life difficult by bad-mouthing her to her former employer.

Pamela said she had joined the firm in May, shortly after it was awarded the tender to organise an exhibition that cost over $1 million.

She met the officer after she was assigned to help with the exhibition's events and programming.

Her first impression was that he was helpful and professional, though occasionally cocky, she said.

She showed TNP the transcript (at right) of their alleged WhatsApp conversation between Aug 5 and Sept 3.

She said: "It was a work-centred conversation at first. I asked him for directions to the Immigrations Checkpoint Authority because we were doing a video production recce there and he helped me."

GOT PERSONAL

Over the next few weeks, he asked her personal questions, such as her qualifications and family background, before allegedly saying on Aug 21 that he wished to date her.

Pamela, who has been working in the industry for nine years, claimed she was not surprised at first.

She said: "In our industry, a date usually refers to a networking session where I take my colleagues and he takes his. But from his repeated attempts to ask me out one-on-one, it became quite clear he was looking for something more."

Pamela claimed she tried to avoid his advances each time, but he persisted. For example, she would change the topic and talk about work, or ignore his messages when he allegedly asked her to be his lover.

She said she knew he was married.

He allegedly grew more daring and asked for sexual favours, such as them "making out".

She said: "I felt very offended. He even texted me 'you are hot' during a meeting, moments before I was about to do a presentation."

When asked why she did not reject his advances outright, she said: "I was in a very difficult position. I had to maintain a positive relationship and not burn bridges because we were still working together."

After spurning him several times, she thought he had got the hint.

But he then made her life difficult, she alleged. "He told my boss he did not understand my part because I was not comprehensive in my work. But how could that be when everyone else on the team understood?

"He also told others that I was the one who kept pestering him and that I was irritating."

Pamela claimed that when she told her superiors about the incident, they dismissed her claims and told her to carry on with her work.

She said one of them even suggested that she go out with the officer.

They also tried to persuade her not to report the matter before the project was completed.

"They asked me to hold off until they got the signature for the quotation. That was why I left. The firm was not taking care of my welfare," said Pamela.

She quit in early September and recounted her experience to TNP earlier this month in the hope that his actions would be brought to light.

"Who knows which other girl he'll prey on next. I hope it stops with me," she said.

TNP approached the firm's assistant general manager (AGM) and told her about Pamela's allegations about the firm. The AGM said she had offered Pamela professional advice, such as to ignore the officer, and added that she could not comment further as it was a personal matter between the two parties.

When TNP contacted the SCDF officer over the phone last week, he hung up when he realised it was a reporter on the line.

A police spokesman confirmed that a report had been made and said investigations are ongoing.

An SCDF spokesman told TNP that it expects its officers to uphold exemplary standards of discipline and personal conduct.

He said: "We take a serious view of any alleged misconduct on the part of our officers. We are unable to comment further as the case is currently being investigated by the police."

In our industry, a date usually refers to a networking session where I take my colleagues and he takes his. But from his repeated attempts to ask me out one-on-one, it became quite clear he was looking for something more.

- 'Pamela', who has been working in the industry for nine years

EXCERPTS FROM TRANSCRIPT

AUG 23, 2015


12:06pm Him: I am attracted to you

12:06pm Her: In what ways?

12:06pm Him: Physically

12:06pm Her: And do u think it's right?

12:06pm Him: I don't see any problem

12:06pm Her: I'm keen in being friends

12:07pm Her: Further on. I'm not sure

12:07pm Him: We can try

12:07pm Him: It doesn't have to be binding

12:08pm Him: I'll not ask for commitments

12:09pm Her: Do u do this very often?

12:10pm Him: ?

12:10pm Her: Erm as in. Telling women these? What you're telling me now?

12:10pm Him: Haha

12:11pm Him: I am keen on you, not every other woman

AUG 27, 2015

2:09pm Him: When can we make out?

2:09pm Her: u getting more and more daring. From dates to make out. And every time I talk to u about work u change topic

2:11pm Him: I want to have you. That has not changed

2:15pm Her: u seriously not scare of getting in trouble ah

2:23pm Him: Nope

2:24pm Him: I want to have you badly

2:24pm Him: Please?

2:27pm Him: Dear, I want an affirmative consent

2:28pm Him: Ok?

2:49pm Him: We meet today

2:49pm Him: I want to have you

AUG 29, 2015

9:21pm Him: One last time... really no?

9:21pm Her: What one last time?

9:22pm Her: Why u so random? Suddenly ask me one last time?

9:22pm Him: Asking you for the last time

9:22pm Her: Asking me what? Be together with u?

9:23pm Him: Lovers

9:23pm Her: So if you're asking now... then nope

9:24pm Him: Ok

9:24pm Her: There's always another relationship call friends. If u can Accept that

9:25pm Him: We already are friends

9:25pm Her: if u can accept that. Then if u asked me dinner I will

... a few texts later...

9:26pm Him: Lovers are better than friends

9:26pm Her: Ur wife will kill me

9:27pm Him: Rubbish

9:27pm Her: What rubbish?

9:27pm Her: I don't want to get into trouble

9:28pm Him: Won't have trouble

9:28pm Him: Friends with benefits?

9:28pm Her: Do I look like a women that would really sleep around?

9:28pm Her: Or a women who don't respect myself?

... a few texts later...


9:32pm Her: Haiz. When u tell me such things u want me. Have u thought of how your wife will feel if she knows about it?

9:32pm Her: And would u get into trouble if someone knows about it?

9:32pm Her: Why risk ur career and marriage just cos u want me?

AUG 30, 2015

11:09am Him: I am ignoring them

11:09am Her: Why!

11:09am Him: Because I am determined to have you!

Lawyers: Unlikely to involve corruption

The alleged incident between the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) officer and the woman is unlikely to involve corruption, criminal lawyers told The New Paper.

Hilborne Law director Rajan Supramaniam, who has been in practice for 15 years, said there did not seem to be any gratification involved.

He said: "To prove there is corruption, you have to prove that there is gratification extended as a result of the personal favour asked of the woman."

He added that the officer could face criminal harassment charges if he had intentionally annoyed her with calls or if he had stalked her.

If so, she could file a magistrate's complaint, Mr Supramaniam said.

"Morally, what he did may be wrong, though," he added.

Mr Ravinderpal Singh, of Kalco Law, said a civil suit seems to be the most likely recourse.

"On the face of it, there does not seem to be anything criminal unless he sent some lewd messages, and it also depends on how the recipient took it."

What will likely happen to the SCDF officer?

Lawyer Gloria James-Civetta said that government agencies usually conduct internal investigations before taking any action deemed appropriate if there is any wrongdoing.

Affected officers may be suspended pending the outcome.

When the investigations are concluded, officers found to have behaved inappropriately may be suspended for a period of time.

"In some cases, they may even be terminated," said Mrs James-Civetta.

- See more at: http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore-new....Ul7E87Bp.dpuf
interesting..seems like this is something new to learn..every organisation has corruption..we cannot avoid it too.

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There goes hi future..Never learn from others mistake,

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There goes hi future..Never learn from others mistake,
well he deserves it...

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I can't imagine if his name is spread in the scdf organisation.how is he going to survive ?

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Must exposed this SCDF Lieutenant-Colonel.

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I think he will be under investigation, and proper punishment will be roll out to him.

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I think he will be under investigation, and proper punishment will be roll out to him.
I guess he is too low greedy and definitely too free in life

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Must exposed this SCDF Lieutenant-Colonel.
He is exposed - Ex-SCDF Lieutenant-Colonel charged with stalking woman.


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